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possession of the are they the game is

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rigged changed the game changer I

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occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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this is fade to black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer radio

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network and kgraney

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we need your help to get to the year

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good evening how you doing

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Matt says hey man

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one hundred and ninety two days into the

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new year just 173 days left we are live

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from a bunker somewhere in beautiful

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downtown Burbank California

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no one likes a welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the United States hither and

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thither to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west north and south far

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this is fade to black for kjc are the

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game changer Network and K GRA the

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planet I'm yours Jimmy Church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing how you

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doing you like this shirt you digging

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that that's from the good Reverend Jim

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Ian and Sarah they sent me a collection

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of Hawaiian shirts from the UK from

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Dover and yeah so I wore this one

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tonight because it's it's you know it's

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a fade to black Hawaiian shirt it's

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pretty cool isn't it kind of diggin it

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it's a mood changer yeah sometimes you

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just got to change your shirt that's

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right and I did yeah it's really really

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a nice shirt so thank you and mica thank

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you so much

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all right it's all good how is everybody

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doing tonight I'm in a great mood and

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yeah the shirt had a lot to do with it

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crazy crazy day today and gearing up for

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tonight's show we've got Steven Bassett

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here and we have first-time guest dr.

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Lisa Gallardo is going to be with us at

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Ronnie McMullen is going to be here from

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ancient life oils and we'll talk a

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little CBD and get ready for dr. Lisa at

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the bottom of the hour tonight we're

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going to discuss the disclosure movement

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committed and he is he's definitely mr.

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disclosure there's no doubt about it

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movement and dr. Lisa go are now who's

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gonna be with us at the bottom in the

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hour has been working with Steve so

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we're gonna get what she is doing as

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well and her background is very very

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interesting and I think it's great to

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have somebody of her caliber to join our

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community and where she came from and

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tonight and her efforts into the

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disclosure movement so that's our show

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tonight

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what an interesting week we've had

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goddess and what a great show that was I

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had so much fun doing that and then to

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roll that right over to Emery Smith last

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times I've done three conferences this

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year with Emery and last night and I

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posted today over at on stellar you can

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Emery in the show last night Emery and I

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night if things just happen and last

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night was just one of those shows and I

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wow that was really really cool and so

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what a week right and I've got a few

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comments we've got Ronnie coming in here

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in just a bit so but I just wanted to

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say when it comes to and I asked Emery

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before one of the commercial breaks I

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said Amory either we're dealing with you

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a B C or D you know and I think I got to

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D and and his answer was an interesting

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one but it's those questions need to be

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asked and for anybody out there that

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they are just like you and those

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you go you know and it was just a very

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colorful comprehensive information

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filled show last night so if you haven't

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caught it it it's up it's in the

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archives it's there you can go and check

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it out it's also over on YouTube and go

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and check it out

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in case you were one of the few that

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missed the show you can check out what I

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have posted over at on stellar o NS te

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ll a are calm if you haven't registered

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over it on stellar go and do it now and

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when you do don't forget to post your

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profile picture but send me a friend

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request okay and if you don't have a

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profile picture yet I was gonna shoot a

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video man I gotta get out of here I got

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to get ready for Ronnie I was gonna

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shoot a video of me scrolling through a

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friend request that have the on stellar

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alien for the profile pic it it's so

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long

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thousands I'm not kidding I haven't

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counted but if I scroll it really slow I

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can get through it in about a minute and

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I was gonna shoot a video of that thing

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scrolling it's nuts and I know that

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there are so many out there that sent me

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friend requests and they're going to hey

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man you know what's up with this church

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guy alright well I'm telling you upload

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something upload an image there so I

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know that you're not a bot just post

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something I don't care post a picture of

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your dog your cat you know your

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refrigerator I don't care but if you do

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that I'll reply okay it's really that

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simple okay let's let's get to

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everything that I've got to

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to tonight okay breaking news the head

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of the project sector at the Ministry of

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Antiquities wide Abdul Allah revealed

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this is in Egypt Giza revealed the plan

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to be used to lift the 30-ton

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sarcophagus and transfer it to one of

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Alexandria's archaeological sites Abdul

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Allah told said today and I'm quoting

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here that the plan consists of two steps

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one the first is filling the area

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surrounding the sarcophagus then lifting

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the sarcophagus by a tow truck in a

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scientific way that does not harm the

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antiquity end quote

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now put that in your pipe and smoke it

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unbelievable what is in that sarcophagus

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I cannot wait I just cannot wait alright

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gonna get to before Ronnie gets in here

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Ronnie McMullen which is happy birthday

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- today Lil Kim is 44 that's right

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also today Fator nod and friend Michelle

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Harris is 29 years old

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happy birthday Michelle I know you guys

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are tearing it up tonight and next year

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on fade to black next year Michelle will

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get that 29 year old birthday shout-out

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to as well happy birthday Michelle give

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my best to the family

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right on this day in history oh TD 1979

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Skylab America's first space station

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comes crashing down on to Australia and

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into the Indian Ocean after only five

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years after the last man Skylab mission

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ended now check this out no one was

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injured but it was launched in 1973 so

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you do the math that's nuts and I love

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Skylab too it was such a part of my

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childhood

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all right fader fact helmet now this is

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a fader fact that I'm gonna bring Ronnie

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McMullen on here in just a second and

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I'm going to give you this fader fact

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and I'm gonna ask Ronnie about it number

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one number two I want to know tomorrow

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on the show if you are going to repeat

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this fader fact to a friend okay are you

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ready Helmut Simon the man who found the

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5,000 year old Otzi the Iceman in 1991

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was also found dead frozen in ice in

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2004 some things I just have to share

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with you I have to is that the craziest

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fader fact ever somebody wants me to put

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together a book of a fader facts what I

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think I'm going to do it's a lot of work

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because I've been doing it for years and

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years but I have everything archived and

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I'm wondering maybe we should do baby

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something on the site on the website and

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an archive from there for everybody but

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maybe I should put a book together I

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think it would be rather interesting but

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it would have to be updated all the time

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update an e-book electronically right

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and then you can ha I got to think about

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that do a PDF version a downloadable

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version then we just update it every day

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yeah and then you can update the last

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page and just add it yeah you could do

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that hmm

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something to think about coming up after

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this short break

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dr. Lisa del r now is gonna be with us

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and a little bit later on tonight Steve

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Bassett it's good to be here

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you're listening to Jimmy Church fade to

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fade to black will now pause for a

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is a socio-cultural anthropologist

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futurist media scholar and contact

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experiencer since childhood Lisa began

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her career as a linguist in the US Army

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followed by undergraduate and graduate

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work at UC Berkeley and the University

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of Waikato in New Zealand

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she spent 25 years in the tech industry

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working on groundbreaking and

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award-winning projects related to the

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internet media video games virtual

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worlds and a number of community and

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educational projects in recent years she

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has worked as a design researcher on

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projects for Microsoft Amazon dozens of

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other tech and media companies Lisa has

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been in constant telepathic contact with

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her with her team of guides for the last

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several years and has been assisting

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with disclosure XL politics EXO

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consciousness efforts using a wide range

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of psychic creative and technical

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talents she's the co-founder of the

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disclosure activist and that is

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disclosure activist or guy would like to

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welcome for the first time to fade to

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black dr. Lisa Gallardo dr. Lisa good

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evening how are you I'm great Jimmy

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thank you so much for having me it's

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great to hear your voice

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and you get the first time guest

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disclaimer are you ready I'm ready which

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is this it's just you and I sitting on

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my couch having a conversation as

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friends and where that conversation

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starts it starts where it ends it ends

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what we're gonna and his friends there

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you go

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I love that that's wonderful you know

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it's so funny when I have a first-time

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guess on and I hit him with that - like

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what I don't know this is coming but

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yeah you know and the first-time guests

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are important on this show and we have

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spent so much time with our team here to

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find fresh voices the best and the

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brightest and and so that's why it's so

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important a first-time guest I just want

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them to be comfortable you know let's

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just do this and and we'll see where the

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starts and we'll see where it ends but

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it's all good yeah that's great I'm

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really honored to to be talking to you

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into your audience so it sounds great

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let's go well you've got you've got I

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want to talk a little bit will do your

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childhood in the next segment because

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we're gonna go back and visit those

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subjects but on the professional side I

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want to talk about your background and

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your credentials because when we are

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talking about things like Microsoft and

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Amazon and futurist and and the army and

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and you know graduate studies that's a

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pretty good CV it's a great CV but it's

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also something that we don't see that

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often here in our community so tell us

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about your background and linguist and

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and futurist and and working with these

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companies before we talk about what

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brought you here

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sure well I was born in 1969 which was

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in the same month in fact that the

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internet went online for the first time

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it was what was called ARPANET Ord

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ARPANET and there were four nodes at

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four universities I was born in Northern

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California you know I ended up having

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you know access to great educational

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opportunities in Northern California but

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you know I lived a fairly normal

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childhood except for you know some of

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these contact experiences I was having

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that you know I honestly didn't take all

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that seriously and you know I'll see my

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childhood was normal on the one hand but

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on the other hand you know there was

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some abuse and stuff going on at home

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and

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I had a need to leave that situation as

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soon as I possibly could so I spent my

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last year of high school as an exchange

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student in Chile and I actually had sort

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of a major UFO sighting while I was in

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Chile as well so this was in 1986 1987

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and then when I came home from Chile I

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graduated from high school and almost

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immediately within a couple of months I

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had joined the army as a linguist you

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know which is something that you know

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smart kids who you know are joining the

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military you know have the option to do

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or did at that time and because you know

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it was the Cold War era the official

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Cold War era I was given the option of a

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couple of different languages I already

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spoke about three languages at the time

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so I scored you know quite well on the

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entrance exams and that sort of thing

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and they offered me the possibility of

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learning Russian so after basic training

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I went to the Defense Language Institute

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in Monterey which is very well known you

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know for being a facility for people who

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are learning languages who are in any

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branch of the armed services at the sign

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out front of our in front of our

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barracks said we're learning Russian so

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you don't have to and we wore t-shirts

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around that said that sort of thing but

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I only spent about a year and a half in

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the military because I ended up being

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injured and they offered me the

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opportunity you know to be discharged

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and I decided at that point I was ready

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to you know start going to college

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because you know my kind of

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working-class family was all about the

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education so I was very focused and in

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fact my grandfather only went to school

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through the second grade he was from

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Arkansas so so it was a big thing

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education in my family so I spent a

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while at Community College in Sacramento

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I then transferred to UC Berkeley where

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I had no idea what I was going to do

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with myself but I started out studying

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linguistics switched to Slavic languages

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and literatures and was studying Soviet

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culture and propaganda and just all this

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kind of stuff related to the Soviet

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Union and then the the Berlin Wall fell

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and the Soviet Union sort of fell apart

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and I decided at that point

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I would switch gears and I kind of

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looked through the course catalog and I

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was trying to figure out how you know

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what am I going to change my major to

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and still graduate on time and it turns

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out I had taken a ton of anthropology

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classes and a lot of them were related

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to spirituality and religion and the

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geography of religion and spirituality

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and cosmology and you know I was just

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kind of trying to figure out how it all

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works and how my experiences fit so my

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undergrad graduate degree was in

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anthropology and I graduated from

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Berkeley in 93 which was the same year

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the first graphical web browser came out

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I don't know if you remember this Jimmy

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yeah I was there yes Netscape and all of

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that and we went from you know our kind

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of green screen text-based Internet you

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know the pre graphical Internet which

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was very interesting you know and useful

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at the time but oh the graphical

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Internet I just thought that was the

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best thing ever

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and I have kind of a funny story I don't

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know if this happened to you but I

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remember getting on the graphical web

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very early right after that first

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browser came out and I went looking for

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websites and I swear I could only find

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20 or 30 websites I spent several hours

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finding every website I could and I

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remember just thinking to myself oh we

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need more internet so that's kind of you

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know set the stage for everything I've

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done ever since

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so I've done a whole variety of things

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you know I started out kind of doing

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graphic design and desktop publishing

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and technical support and I worked in a

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variety of sort of you know hardcore

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back in technical jobs I was working for

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a systems integrator who were resellers

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for Sun Microsystems equipment and

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Netscape equipment if you know any of

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these names UNIX space systems

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essentially and I had several of these

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very technical jobs and then round about

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the mid 90s to the late 90s I started

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getting involved with more kind of

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creative and interactive and marketing

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agencies who were doing kind of exciting

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work that was combining like the best of

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graphic design and back-end design and

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different kinds of things so I kind of

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switched to what I would call the

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front-end

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and now my specialty is what we call

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user experience design which is

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basically what it sounds like but what

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researchers in this area do is they're

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embedded with software development teams

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and we're part of the process of kind of

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conceiving and you know beginning

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projects and kind of designing and

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building out projects and then we're in

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the process throughout as the software

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is being developed so that we can then

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you know test it with audiences to see

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if we're doing the right thing it's a

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lot like audience research in you know

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the movie industry yeah it's got to be

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very very similar and you've got to be

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able to get that interaction back for

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the user experience and the user

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interface because you could spend a lot

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of development time on something that

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just nobody's gonna care about or lose

545
00:27:32,590 --> 00:27:29,090
interest in or not be attracted to or

546
00:27:38,140 --> 00:27:32,600
get bored with or or or or yeah you've

547
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:38,150
got to go through that there's exactly

548
00:27:42,010 --> 00:27:39,890
what happens and it's a it's a small

549
00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:42,020
investment to make and it you know can

550
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:44,240
have a really great payoff the reason I

551
00:27:48,790 --> 00:27:46,370
personally enjoy doing this work so much

552
00:27:50,530 --> 00:27:48,800
is that I spent a lot of time working it

553
00:27:53,130 --> 00:27:50,540
on projects it I worked for Tower

554
00:27:56,799 --> 00:27:53,140
Records comm for a while before tower

555
00:27:59,650 --> 00:27:56,809
went belly-up and you know I was finding

556
00:28:01,480 --> 00:27:59,660
it really difficult to get you know the

557
00:28:03,220 --> 00:28:01,490
other executives that I was working with

558
00:28:06,820 --> 00:28:03,230
to kind of do the right thing by the

559
00:28:09,190 --> 00:28:06,830
user and I found out that you know

560
00:28:11,950 --> 00:28:09,200
coming to them with tangible evidence

561
00:28:13,270 --> 00:28:11,960
about what users were experiencing what

562
00:28:15,910 --> 00:28:13,280
their problems were and what they were

563
00:28:18,549 --> 00:28:15,920
trying to do was the best way for me to

564
00:28:20,740 --> 00:28:18,559
have an impact so I thought it's it's

565
00:28:23,350 --> 00:28:20,750
actually quite strategic work even

566
00:28:25,390 --> 00:28:23,360
though it might not seem so and it's

567
00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:25,400
very satisfying you know I'm an advocate

568
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:27,200
for the user is essentially it's called

569
00:28:32,140 --> 00:28:30,170
voice of the customer research so I'm an

570
00:28:35,620 --> 00:28:32,150
advocate for int users and the whole

571
00:28:38,740 --> 00:28:35,630
time my my job is to say this works

572
00:28:41,140 --> 00:28:38,750
great this doesn't work great we can do

573
00:28:43,150 --> 00:28:41,150
better let's do better so yes like

574
00:28:45,310 --> 00:28:43,160
should give you an idea of the kind of

575
00:28:46,990 --> 00:28:45,320
work that I mostly do but I also do

576
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:47,000
other kinds of research I do incites

577
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:48,210
research I did a lot

578
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:51,090
work in the cloud computing space which

579
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:52,890
I used to call the big database in the

580
00:28:59,270 --> 00:28:56,490
sky and I've done a lot of work in video

581
00:29:02,300 --> 00:28:59,280
games in virtual worlds my doctorate was

582
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:02,310
all video game related I'm a gamer going

583
00:29:08,690 --> 00:29:06,330
back to probably age 11 with pong so I

584
00:29:12,110 --> 00:29:08,700
really got bit by it you know the kind

585
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:12,120
of gamer bug and I was extremely

586
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:14,610
interested because my master's degree is

587
00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:16,410
in education and I was very interested

588
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:17,910
in online learning and this kind of

589
00:29:21,530 --> 00:29:19,650
thing and I was looking for really great

590
00:29:23,810 --> 00:29:21,540
examples of online learning and couldn't

591
00:29:25,850 --> 00:29:23,820
really find them and then I was looking

592
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:25,860
around me at all of these game spaces

593
00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:28,170
that people were playing and and I was

594
00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:30,720
thinking to myself wow you know people

595
00:29:34,850 --> 00:29:32,880
never read a manual they just somehow

596
00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:34,860
learn the mechanics of these very

597
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:37,710
complicated games just from each other

598
00:29:42,530 --> 00:29:40,050
so I decided that I would study that for

599
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:42,540
my for my dissertation and I did this

600
00:29:47,690 --> 00:29:44,250
through the University of Waikato in New

601
00:29:49,910 --> 00:29:47,700
Zealand and I studied what what I called

602
00:29:52,340 --> 00:29:49,920
spontaneous communities of learning so

603
00:29:54,670 --> 00:29:52,350
it's how people kind of get together and

604
00:29:57,650 --> 00:29:54,680
sort of you know a swarm intelligence

605
00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:57,660
kind of way in order to achieve

606
00:30:01,760 --> 00:29:59,760
something and in this case it was you

607
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:01,770
know to achieve entertainment goals you

608
00:30:05,030 --> 00:30:03,570
know we're gonna this in the game that I

609
00:30:06,530 --> 00:30:05,040
studied it for a very long time was

610
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:06,540
called the City of Heroes so we were all

611
00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:08,640
superheroes and we'd you know get

612
00:30:11,660 --> 00:30:10,320
together in teams and we'd find people

613
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:11,670
to work with and we'd go out and we'd

614
00:30:17,150 --> 00:30:14,250
fight crime and you know fight bad guys

615
00:30:18,830 --> 00:30:17,160
and you know and we would we would do

616
00:30:21,290 --> 00:30:18,840
this you know sometimes you know four

617
00:30:23,060 --> 00:30:21,300
four hours at a time so it's just

618
00:30:25,940 --> 00:30:23,070
fascinating to me the way people can

619
00:30:29,660 --> 00:30:25,950
come together on the internet and figure

620
00:30:31,550 --> 00:30:29,670
out ways to be really productive we call

621
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:31,560
them in kind of learning Sciences

622
00:30:36,260 --> 00:30:34,290
circles week we call these things

623
00:30:38,540 --> 00:30:36,270
communities of practice or communities

624
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:38,550
of learning yeah I went through the

625
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:41,010
whole gaming thing still do I've you

626
00:30:48,740 --> 00:30:45,330
know I've got a ps4 but I certainly

627
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:48,750
early on when things started to take off

628
00:31:01,710 --> 00:30:57,000
Diablo Diablo - oh I played a lot of

629
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:01,720
Diablo Diablo - I played that game to

630
00:31:09,870 --> 00:31:05,710
finish probably a dozen times but it was

631
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:09,880
a great game different at the time yeah

632
00:31:14,610 --> 00:31:12,730
and command & Conquer and I all of those

633
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:14,620
so there's a real-time strategy games I

634
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:15,760
love games like that

635
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:19,330
and the total immersive way that Tomb

636
00:31:31,050 --> 00:31:25,570
Raider approached that that world also I

637
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:31,060
really got into mist and and and ooh oh

638
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:34,720
man so groundbreaking games those games

639
00:31:39,210 --> 00:31:36,490
were all groundbreaking nightly

640
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:39,220
groundbreaking and to this day I mean Oh

641
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:44,290
ruin missed they still are part of my

642
00:31:49,530 --> 00:31:45,310
dreamscape

643
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:49,540
I can go right there but this is where

644
00:31:53,220 --> 00:31:51,970
okay when you're when you're you play

645
00:31:54,750 --> 00:31:53,230
these games so much and then you're

646
00:31:56,250 --> 00:31:54,760
dreaming about the games and then you're

647
00:31:58,170 --> 00:31:56,260
waking up with a new solution to

648
00:31:59,880 --> 00:31:58,180
something you're trying to solve oh you

649
00:32:02,550 --> 00:31:59,890
should have written in one of my cars

650
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:02,560
when I'm driving the streets of LA after

651
00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:05,490
playing Gran Turismo for eight hours but

652
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:08,320
this is where before we hit the top of

653
00:32:14,130 --> 00:32:11,410
the hour this is something else that is

654
00:32:18,810 --> 00:32:14,140
interesting for you and your career in

655
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:18,820
that quantum computing parallel worlds

656
00:32:29,070 --> 00:32:22,690
and what is going on in that aspect with

657
00:32:30,510 --> 00:32:29,080
the qubits and these CEOs and heads of

658
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:30,520
corporations up there in Silicon

659
00:32:34,140 --> 00:32:32,410
Valley's you know over the last couple

660
00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:34,150
of years have started to talk about this

661
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:37,120
this binary world the simulated universe

662
00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:40,690
the possibility of us living in a

663
00:32:48,690 --> 00:32:44,080
simulation and this and still that

664
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:48,700
hasn't stopped did you get involved in

665
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:51,250
any of that chatter in your work

666
00:33:00,300 --> 00:32:54,850
environment well some of that I can't

667
00:33:02,460 --> 00:33:00,310
tell you Jimmy that there is some very

668
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:02,470
interesting work going on that's at the

669
00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:05,530
kind of intersection of what I might

670
00:33:10,019 --> 00:33:07,990
call consciousness I

671
00:33:11,970 --> 00:33:10,029
and the work that I do with the dr.

672
00:33:13,860 --> 00:33:11,980
Edgar Mitchell foundation for research

673
00:33:16,220 --> 00:33:13,870
into extraterrestrial and extraordinary

674
00:33:18,419 --> 00:33:16,230
encounters they're also called three

675
00:33:20,899 --> 00:33:18,429
which was founded by dr. Edgar Mitchell

676
00:33:25,019 --> 00:33:20,909
of course who also founded the Institute

677
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:25,029
for nan noetic Sciences who are constant

678
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:27,130
consciousness research organization a

679
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:30,970
scientific organization like free and it

680
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:33,970
turns out that there are organizations

681
00:33:39,539 --> 00:33:37,600
like Google who are very interested in

682
00:33:42,149 --> 00:33:39,549
these kind of new interfaces if you

683
00:33:44,850 --> 00:33:42,159
think about augmented reality and

684
00:33:47,340 --> 00:33:44,860
virtual reality and this actually goes

685
00:33:49,710 --> 00:33:47,350
back a little bit of time because Deepak

686
00:33:52,619 --> 00:33:49,720
Chopra was may made a couple of games

687
00:33:56,249 --> 00:33:52,629
for the connect the Microsoft's Xbox

688
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:56,259
Kinect when it first came out that were

689
00:34:00,570 --> 00:33:57,850
you know relying on kind of

690
00:34:02,399 --> 00:34:00,580
neurofeedback principles and so they're

691
00:34:05,340 --> 00:34:02,409
looking at a lot of new kind of

692
00:34:07,499 --> 00:34:05,350
interfaces there's one thing that just

693
00:34:10,260 --> 00:34:07,509
came out recently that there's a company

694
00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:10,270
that's developed something that's an

695
00:34:14,490 --> 00:34:12,129
interface for your other devices but

696
00:34:16,889 --> 00:34:14,500
where you don't have to speak a command

697
00:34:21,710 --> 00:34:16,899
you can just say the command in your

698
00:34:24,109 --> 00:34:21,720
head and it will activate the device so

699
00:34:27,139 --> 00:34:24,119
you know I know about some of the

700
00:34:29,970 --> 00:34:27,149
projects like that a little bit more

701
00:34:31,889 --> 00:34:29,980
interim a technology perspective but

702
00:34:35,369 --> 00:34:31,899
I've certainly done a lot of research

703
00:34:37,139 --> 00:34:35,379
and and have a fairly I'd call it a

704
00:34:39,419 --> 00:34:37,149
general understanding that a conceptual

705
00:34:41,490 --> 00:34:39,429
understanding of you know this idea of

706
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:41,500
the multiverse and multidimensionality

707
00:34:46,409 --> 00:34:44,169
and kind of where we fit in all of that

708
00:34:48,419 --> 00:34:46,419
and I tend to think about all of these

709
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:48,429
things like conscious as consciousness

710
00:34:52,889 --> 00:34:50,530
to me is the cosmic internet and we are

711
00:34:55,079 --> 00:34:52,899
all nodes on the you know the internet

712
00:34:57,630 --> 00:34:55,089
or you know it's kind of like you know

713
00:35:00,630 --> 00:34:57,640
the fact that I talk you know to my team

714
00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:00,640
of guides you know using consciousness

715
00:35:05,609 --> 00:35:03,520
as a vehicle you know everyone is

716
00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:05,619
capable of doing this and you know so my

717
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:07,510
metaphor is usually well it's like

718
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:09,970
people who have ham radios in the day

719
00:35:14,220 --> 00:35:11,920
and you know somebody with a ham radio

720
00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:14,230
would say oh my god I started talking to

721
00:35:20,370 --> 00:35:16,569
someone in Timbuktu and it was so great

722
00:35:24,690 --> 00:35:20,380
and everybody's like what how's that

723
00:35:26,190 --> 00:35:24,700
possible but dude's got a radio and he's

724
00:35:28,260 --> 00:35:26,200
talking all sorts of people or my

725
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:28,270
grandfather had a CB in his pickup truck

726
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:29,680
and we used to talk to all sorts of

727
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:32,170
people so you know it's very much that

728
00:35:36,930 --> 00:35:35,200
same you know kind of paradigm and a you

729
00:35:38,070 --> 00:35:36,940
know to speak to your point when we

730
00:35:41,130 --> 00:35:38,080
think about it from a digital

731
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:41,140
perspective rather than an analogue

732
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:42,370
perspective and we think about

733
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:44,650
everything being digital and therefore

734
00:35:49,890 --> 00:35:47,290
yeah this is just one big virtual world

735
00:35:53,130 --> 00:35:49,900
and there are people who are developers

736
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:53,140
and programmers and producers and

737
00:35:59,430 --> 00:35:56,050
artists and all kinds of people who work

738
00:36:01,590 --> 00:35:59,440
on our project this virtual world and

739
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:01,600
they're the people who are you know on

740
00:36:06,750 --> 00:36:03,730
what we would call the other side of the

741
00:36:08,490 --> 00:36:06,760
veil but there are a lot of people you

742
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:08,500
know in contact you know with these

743
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:10,810
beans in one way or another and you know

744
00:36:14,670 --> 00:36:12,370
I just happen to be one of them

745
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:14,680
now so what would I find interesting

746
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:17,110
we've got a few minutes before the break

747
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:20,890
I can understand building a neural

748
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:23,530
interface which I know that DARPA and

749
00:36:27,450 --> 00:36:25,690
Sandia have already completed that's

750
00:36:31,460 --> 00:36:27,460
that's that's fine I know that that

751
00:36:34,830 --> 00:36:31,470
technology exists and downloading our

752
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:34,840
memories and thoughts things that are

753
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:39,520
stored onto a drive is possible I

754
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:41,890
totally get that but what about the soul

755
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:46,690
that makes us us is is that transferable

756
00:36:52,590 --> 00:36:50,170
to to live in the virtual world oh yes

757
00:36:55,230 --> 00:36:52,600
so we're essentially jacked into a

758
00:36:58,770 --> 00:36:55,240
reality you know just like people are in

759
00:37:00,780 --> 00:36:58,780
the matrix or in you know avatar right

760
00:37:04,020 --> 00:37:00,790
so they kind of jack into that reality

761
00:37:06,300 --> 00:37:04,030
and it's about that the soul is the

762
00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:06,310
being that's jacked into this reality

763
00:37:12,420 --> 00:37:09,310
and the interface is the human body and

764
00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:12,430
the human brain but the mind is a

765
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:15,250
combination of things that are produced

766
00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:18,970
via the human brain and you know via the

767
00:37:24,750 --> 00:37:21,640
greater mind and because consciousness

768
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:24,760
is one great field and because we're all

769
00:37:29,550 --> 00:37:27,040
interconnected I'd really encourage your

770
00:37:31,890 --> 00:37:29,560
listeners who are interested in this to

771
00:37:34,580 --> 00:37:31,900
look up some talks by say Rupert

772
00:37:37,070 --> 00:37:34,590
Sheldrake has done a lot of talks

773
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:37,080
the evidence for telepathy and he talks

774
00:37:42,350 --> 00:37:39,330
a lot about telepathy and insects and

775
00:37:45,220 --> 00:37:42,360
animals and behaviors that are

776
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:45,230
synchronized behaviors I wrote

777
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:47,280
investigated a lot of that stuff when I

778
00:37:52,610 --> 00:37:50,130
was working on my doctoral work because

779
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:52,620
I was very interested in principles of

780
00:37:58,190 --> 00:37:55,710
self-organization and emergence you know

781
00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:58,200
so the emergence of an intelligence

782
00:38:03,020 --> 00:37:59,760
that's greater than the sum of its parts

783
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:03,030
you know you can have these hive mind

784
00:38:07,730 --> 00:38:04,770
configurations or these swarm

785
00:38:09,590 --> 00:38:07,740
intelligences that exhibit those

786
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:09,600
behaviors you might call like it's the

787
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:12,690
wisdom of crowds so I was really

788
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:14,880
interested in and kind of a lot of those

789
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:18,690
ideas and you know I think the first

790
00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:20,850
hurdle a lot of people need to get over

791
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:22,710
because there's this kind of scientific

792
00:38:26,690 --> 00:38:24,480
truth embargo about you know that's all

793
00:38:28,690 --> 00:38:26,700
about establishment science and a lot of

794
00:38:31,610 --> 00:38:28,700
this French stuff is just kind of

795
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:31,620
rejected without people even really

796
00:38:36,980 --> 00:38:34,890
knowing the evidence so I find you know

797
00:38:39,530 --> 00:38:36,990
that getting people to wrap their heads

798
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:39,540
around the idea that you know no

799
00:38:45,260 --> 00:38:42,330
telepathy and ESP you know weren't

800
00:38:47,540 --> 00:38:45,270
debunked with Uri Geller in the 1970s

801
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:47,550
which is where a lot of people's heads

802
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:48,960
are at you know people who aren't like

803
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:50,130
listening to your show on a regular

804
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:53,850
basis so there's a lot of just you know

805
00:38:58,130 --> 00:38:56,130
there are a lot of really fascinating

806
00:39:00,020 --> 00:38:58,140
developments with a lot of researchers

807
00:39:01,550 --> 00:39:00,030
who are all over the world you know some

808
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:01,560
who haven't had an opportunity to

809
00:39:06,620 --> 00:39:04,320
publish their research yet but there's

810
00:39:08,690 --> 00:39:06,630
are some amazing beings you know doing

811
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:08,700
some amazing things there's a guy who

812
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:16,530
can cite 22,000 numbers of Pi and he can

813
00:39:21,980 --> 00:39:19,170
just keep reciting numbers of Pi like

814
00:39:24,020 --> 00:39:21,990
endlessly and the way he apparently does

815
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it he's what you might call an autistic

816
00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:27,660
savant and he has synesthesia so he

817
00:39:33,650 --> 00:39:30,420
apparently receives these different

818
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:33,660
colors in a pattern and the colors each

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00:39:38,420 --> 00:39:36,240
represent a different number so he knows

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00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:38,430
for instance one is red and two as

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00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:41,250
yellow and three is green kind of thing

822
00:39:46,220 --> 00:39:43,440
and he just gets kind of a movie or a

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00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:46,230
parade of these colors and he just

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rattles off the numbers

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00:39:52,170 --> 00:39:49,990
so he's getting that from you know a

826
00:39:54,500 --> 00:39:52,180
team of people that he's talking to by

827
00:39:58,410 --> 00:39:54,510
his not people on earth I mean

828
00:40:02,039 --> 00:39:58,420
extra-dimensional people I've seen I've

829
00:40:03,420 --> 00:40:02,049
seen the documentary it's unbelievable

830
00:40:06,059 --> 00:40:03,430
yeah what people are doing with their

831
00:40:08,339 --> 00:40:06,069
minds right now is just off the charts

832
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:08,349
and what some of these kids and young

833
00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:10,000
people are doing and you know they've

834
00:40:13,769 --> 00:40:11,440
grown up digital they've grown up with

835
00:40:16,289 --> 00:40:13,779
the internet they don't perceive any of

836
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:16,299
the limitations that you and I might

837
00:40:22,049 --> 00:40:18,490
have you know growing up in the 70s and

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00:40:24,650 --> 00:40:22,059
80s you know I had my first computer at

839
00:40:27,259 --> 00:40:24,660
15 but it wasn't on the Internet

840
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:27,269
so you know when people have

841
00:40:31,380 --> 00:40:29,650
neuroplastic minds and when they grow up

842
00:40:34,049 --> 00:40:31,390
with these digital technologies it's

843
00:40:36,990 --> 00:40:34,059
just it's literally a quantum leap you

844
00:40:39,180 --> 00:40:37,000
know beyond what a lot of other people

845
00:40:42,210 --> 00:40:39,190
might be experiencing which is exciting

846
00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:42,220
for Humanity and you know I'm I'm really

847
00:40:45,930 --> 00:40:44,049
happy about it you know we can solve our

848
00:40:49,769 --> 00:40:45,940
intractable problems and then we've got

849
00:40:51,299 --> 00:40:49,779
you know generations of people you know

850
00:40:53,339 --> 00:40:51,309
who are being born and who are growing

851
00:40:55,799 --> 00:40:53,349
up who are world changers and you know

852
00:40:59,279 --> 00:40:55,809
game changers as your radio network is

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called that's a great segue for us to

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take a break right here our guest

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00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:04,329
tonight dr. Lisa Gill are now and when

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we come back we're gonna jump in to her

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work in the disclosure movement we're

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gonna do all of that tonight I'll be

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right back

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stay with us after this short break I'm

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yours Jimmy Church on the game changer

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networking kgr a the planet more with

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dr. Lisa

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Kawara now right after this short break

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stay with us

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this is fade to black

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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[Music]

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welcome back fade the black coming over

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to the church our guest tonight dr. Lisa

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Gill are now we're talking about the

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funny I get to say dr. Lisa it's easy

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yeah it's pretty cool it's pretty cool

922
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:49,900
oh your last name is great but dr. Lisa

923
00:44:57,499 --> 00:44:54,130
has got a zing to it the disclosure with

924
00:45:01,319 --> 00:44:57,509
your career and your background

925
00:45:05,130 --> 00:45:01,329
something motivated you into our

926
00:45:09,299 --> 00:45:05,140
community and to start moving forward

927
00:45:12,450 --> 00:45:09,309
with the disclosure movement what what

928
00:45:15,210 --> 00:45:12,460
caused that well you know honestly

929
00:45:17,339 --> 00:45:15,220
that's been mainly my team of guides and

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00:45:19,259 --> 00:45:17,349
this has really happened in the last 10

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00:45:21,630 --> 00:45:19,269
years or so so you know I was the kind

932
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:21,640
of person you might not believe this but

933
00:45:26,220 --> 00:45:23,410
I'm I actually tend to be rather

934
00:45:28,140 --> 00:45:26,230
skeptical about things and I was

935
00:45:29,940 --> 00:45:28,150
skeptical about my own experiences as

936
00:45:32,309 --> 00:45:29,950
well you know I should tell you that

937
00:45:34,589 --> 00:45:32,319
when I was six I had a couple of

938
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:34,599
glow-in-the-dark beans show up in the

939
00:45:38,370 --> 00:45:36,730
bedroom in the middle of the night and

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00:45:40,620 --> 00:45:38,380
this was after a period of time when I

941
00:45:43,890 --> 00:45:40,630
had been seen a lot of like energy forms

942
00:45:46,769 --> 00:45:43,900
and different kinds of things and so you

943
00:45:49,979 --> 00:45:46,779
know that was an inexplicable experience

944
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:49,989
that you know I've kind of known about

945
00:45:56,009 --> 00:45:53,890
my whole life and my parents were sort

946
00:45:58,229 --> 00:45:56,019
of into sci-fi and this kind of thing

947
00:46:00,539 --> 00:45:58,239
and took me to my first UFO conference

948
00:46:02,849 --> 00:46:00,549
when I was probably about 9 or 10 and

949
00:46:03,509 --> 00:46:02,859
you know I was raised on Star Trek and

950
00:46:05,370 --> 00:46:03,519
Star Trek

951
00:46:07,620 --> 00:46:05,380
you know just had a profound effect on

952
00:46:09,930 --> 00:46:07,630
me and you know there was this kind of

953
00:46:11,309 --> 00:46:09,940
vision of a future that was you know

954
00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:11,319
there were a lot of problems and a lot

955
00:46:16,140 --> 00:46:14,049
of bad guys but the principles were

956
00:46:18,180 --> 00:46:16,150
utopian you know and it was all about

957
00:46:20,009 --> 00:46:18,190
kind of you know equality and fairness

958
00:46:22,140 --> 00:46:20,019
and you know all of those Star Trek

959
00:46:24,059 --> 00:46:22,150
people were good guys and there was

960
00:46:25,050 --> 00:46:24,069
Spock and I loved Spock and he was so

961
00:46:28,650 --> 00:46:25,060
logical and

962
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:28,660
and all of this and so you know that had

963
00:46:34,590 --> 00:46:31,650
kind of a profound effect on me as well

964
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:34,600
just from a parent a personal paradigm

965
00:46:39,150 --> 00:46:36,610
perspective so I remember for instance

966
00:46:41,010 --> 00:46:39,160
being in the back seat of the car at one

967
00:46:43,650 --> 00:46:41,020
point when I was you know maybe nine or

968
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:43,660
ten years old and the news was on the

969
00:46:49,830 --> 00:46:46,720
radio and at one point they start

970
00:46:53,490 --> 00:46:49,840
talking about illegal aliens and I

971
00:46:56,190 --> 00:46:53,500
nearly hit the roof I said something

972
00:46:58,530 --> 00:46:56,200
like oh my god they're here you know

973
00:47:01,170 --> 00:46:58,540
because I I just took it for granted

974
00:47:03,390 --> 00:47:01,180
that there was you know other life out

975
00:47:05,940 --> 00:47:03,400
there and other life might you know come

976
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:05,950
and find us at some point I was watching

977
00:47:12,270 --> 00:47:09,490
Nimoy's in search of you know I just had

978
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:12,280
a lot of kind of context but I wouldn't

979
00:47:16,620 --> 00:47:14,890
have called it like a serious habit or

980
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:16,630
anything like that what I ended up

981
00:47:22,290 --> 00:47:19,450
getting quite into was just

982
00:47:26,910 --> 00:47:22,300
understanding you know various religions

983
00:47:29,340 --> 00:47:26,920
and spiritual practices and cosmological

984
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:29,350
myths and I did a lot of this you know

985
00:47:33,300 --> 00:47:31,090
at Berkeley and anthropology a lot of

986
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:33,310
kind of shamanic and and religious

987
00:47:39,050 --> 00:47:36,250
studies kind of stuff and what I started

988
00:47:41,340 --> 00:47:39,060
to discover is that there are so many

989
00:47:43,350 --> 00:47:41,350
cosmological myths and so many places

990
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:43,360
that are kind of disconnected from one

991
00:47:48,660 --> 00:47:46,240
another that talk about star beings and

992
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:48,670
star people and you know we know if you

993
00:47:54,060 --> 00:47:50,890
look at you know the record of humanity

994
00:47:56,220 --> 00:47:54,070
that we suddenly became very intelligent

995
00:47:58,710 --> 00:47:56,230
very quickly you know round about the

996
00:48:01,230 --> 00:47:58,720
time of you know Mesopotamia and ancient

997
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:01,240
Sumer you know the stuff that people

998
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:03,370
like zecharia sitchin you know wrote

999
00:48:08,010 --> 00:48:06,310
about and I also had an opportunity when

1000
00:48:10,290 --> 00:48:08,020
I was living in Chile I actually had

1001
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:10,300
access to some books and one of the

1002
00:48:14,550 --> 00:48:12,250
books was a book called with Jesus

1003
00:48:17,010 --> 00:48:14,560
Christ a cosmonaut and I went to

1004
00:48:18,660 --> 00:48:17,020
Christian schools as a kid so you know I

1005
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:18,670
kind of understood that point of view

1006
00:48:24,570 --> 00:48:22,210
and just this whole idea oh my god what

1007
00:48:26,750 --> 00:48:24,580
if all of these spiritual beings from

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00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:26,760
the Bible were actually just

1009
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:29,050
extraterrestrial or extra dimensional

1010
00:48:34,050 --> 00:48:31,210
beings you know and so that was another

1011
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:34,060
big paradigm shift for me and so you

1012
00:48:38,789 --> 00:48:35,710
know I've just kind of continued to do

1013
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:38,799
my thing a you know for for a long time

1014
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:41,130
but about ten years ago I started

1015
00:48:47,489 --> 00:48:44,410
getting in serious contact with my team

1016
00:48:49,620 --> 00:48:47,499
you know while practicing transcendental

1017
00:48:52,229 --> 00:48:49,630
you know meditation and that sort of

1018
00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:52,239
thing and they were the ones honestly

1019
00:48:58,019 --> 00:48:54,910
who kind of pushed me to you know

1020
00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:58,029
explore you know who else is talking to

1021
00:49:03,449 --> 00:49:00,880
et and once I kind of went down that

1022
00:49:05,519 --> 00:49:03,459
rabbit hole I found you know all of the

1023
00:49:07,739 --> 00:49:05,529
channeled messages and there are tens of

1024
00:49:11,549 --> 00:49:07,749
thousands of them at this point going

1025
00:49:13,289 --> 00:49:11,559
back you know quite far a lot of them

1026
00:49:15,630 --> 00:49:13,299
are beans ascended beings or

1027
00:49:16,829 --> 00:49:15,640
extraterrestrial beings associated with

1028
00:49:20,969 --> 00:49:16,839
what they call the Galactic Federation

1029
00:49:22,859 --> 00:49:20,979
of Light and I became you know just very

1030
00:49:25,499 --> 00:49:22,869
interested in all of that content and I

1031
00:49:29,039 --> 00:49:25,509
wasn't sure I believed that people were

1032
00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:29,049
actually talking to ETA that much but I

1033
00:49:33,029 --> 00:49:31,119
found the messages to be really useful

1034
00:49:34,469 --> 00:49:33,039
from a spiritual perspective and I was

1035
00:49:36,569 --> 00:49:34,479
kind of going through a hard time in my

1036
00:49:39,870 --> 00:49:36,579
life and I found them you know extremely

1037
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:39,880
comforting so you know fast-forward a

1038
00:49:44,009 --> 00:49:42,130
little bit and Steve Bassett and I

1039
00:49:46,949 --> 00:49:44,019
actually got connected on the website

1040
00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:46,959
called Korra because I was running into

1041
00:49:51,089 --> 00:49:48,400
a lot of people which is kind of a

1042
00:49:53,130 --> 00:49:51,099
question and answer site I was running

1043
00:49:55,410 --> 00:49:53,140
into so many people you know with

1044
00:49:57,689 --> 00:49:55,420
scientific and technical backgrounds who

1045
00:50:00,059 --> 00:49:57,699
were just kind of regurgitating the same

1046
00:50:03,029 --> 00:50:00,069
dogma you know what I would call well

1047
00:50:04,620 --> 00:50:03,039
what Reapers Drake has called the

1048
00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:04,630
science delusion which I think is a

1049
00:50:10,169 --> 00:50:06,880
little harsh because you know I'm I'm

1050
00:50:12,809 --> 00:50:10,179
you know a fan of science obviously but

1051
00:50:15,269 --> 00:50:12,819
there are times you know when science

1052
00:50:18,569 --> 00:50:15,279
gets a little too wedded and invested in

1053
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:18,579
the hard scientific method which

1054
00:50:23,519 --> 00:50:21,130
basically says that if you can't control

1055
00:50:26,459 --> 00:50:23,529
an experiment and make an experiment

1056
00:50:27,359 --> 00:50:26,469
happen then you're not able to prove

1057
00:50:29,519 --> 00:50:27,369
anything

1058
00:50:31,979 --> 00:50:29,529
so when you have all of these people who

1059
00:50:34,499 --> 00:50:31,989
will still say well there's no proof or

1060
00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:34,509
evidence you know that we have

1061
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:36,400
extraterrestrial visitors or even that

1062
00:50:40,739 --> 00:50:38,170
there's advanced extraterrestrial life

1063
00:50:43,529 --> 00:50:40,749
you know this tends to be the kind of

1064
00:50:45,809 --> 00:50:43,539
scientific challenge that they're

1065
00:50:47,309 --> 00:50:45,819
demanding when in fact most of the

1066
00:50:49,169 --> 00:50:47,319
evidence that we're getting is either

1067
00:50:52,539 --> 00:50:49,179
through people's subjective experience

1068
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:52,549
or you know through science which

1069
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:55,530
he has has actually been very well

1070
00:51:01,579 --> 00:50:57,890
documented by organizations like MUFON

1071
00:51:05,569 --> 00:51:01,589
and the national UFO Reporting Center

1072
00:51:07,010 --> 00:51:05,579
Cheryl Costa and Linda Miller Costa have

1073
00:51:08,839 --> 00:51:07,020
actually just put out a book last year

1074
00:51:10,579 --> 00:51:08,849
that's called the UFO sightings desk

1075
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:10,589
desk reference where they've compiled

1076
00:51:16,339 --> 00:51:12,930
all of the sightings they could find in

1077
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:16,349
the u.s. between 2001 and 2015 and

1078
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:18,960
that's been an amazing you know piece of

1079
00:51:24,859 --> 00:51:22,410
work and very insightful and as well I

1080
00:51:27,410 --> 00:51:24,869
I watched the Citizen hearing on

1081
00:51:29,859 --> 00:51:27,420
disclosure you know you're having Steve

1082
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:29,869
Bassett on and then the next segments

1083
00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:33,930
and that work was just incredibly

1084
00:51:39,890 --> 00:51:35,760
groundbreaking because he pulled

1085
00:51:43,490 --> 00:51:39,900
together 40 I think it was eye witnesses

1086
00:51:46,549 --> 00:51:43,500
who were very high-ranking incredible

1087
00:51:50,930 --> 00:51:46,559
people in the military in aeronautics

1088
00:51:53,900 --> 00:51:50,940
airline pilots astronauts just all sorts

1089
00:51:55,609 --> 00:51:53,910
of people so you know that was just an

1090
00:52:00,289 --> 00:51:55,619
incredible piece of work that was really

1091
00:52:02,210 --> 00:52:00,299
inspiring and then in early 2017

1092
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:02,220
Russell Kalka and I got together and

1093
00:52:07,549 --> 00:52:05,010
formed the disclosure activists because

1094
00:52:09,470 --> 00:52:07,559
we wanted to create a group that would

1095
00:52:12,289 --> 00:52:09,480
help connect the dots between all of

1096
00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:12,299
these various communities I kind of

1097
00:52:17,059 --> 00:52:14,880
think of disclosure like Big D

1098
00:52:22,130 --> 00:52:17,069
disclosure like super big D disclosure

1099
00:52:25,789 --> 00:52:22,140
as being like a jigsaw puzzle and we all

1100
00:52:27,380 --> 00:52:25,799
have pieces of it and we have you know

1101
00:52:29,059 --> 00:52:27,390
different parts of the jigsaw puzzle

1102
00:52:30,530 --> 00:52:29,069
that we're starting to put together and

1103
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:30,540
we can kind of start to see what the

1104
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:33,440
picture is but not exactly

1105
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:36,720
let me jump in real quick where do you

1106
00:52:44,660 --> 00:52:38,250
think and I know that we all have a

1107
00:52:47,450 --> 00:52:44,670
different definition of disclosure be if

1108
00:52:49,130 --> 00:52:47,460
there is a very personal connect for

1109
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:49,140
everybody in this community what brought

1110
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:51,210
them here and disclosure means different

1111
00:52:56,990 --> 00:52:53,970
things to to everybody and I get that

1112
00:52:59,960 --> 00:52:57,000
part but where do you think it is going

1113
00:53:03,020 --> 00:52:59,970
to come from is it going to come out of

1114
00:53:06,770 --> 00:53:03,030
Washington DC is it gonna be

1115
00:53:08,740 --> 00:53:06,780
an anonymous hack download of documents

1116
00:53:14,090 --> 00:53:08,750
is it going to be an Independence Day

1117
00:53:16,430 --> 00:53:14,100
type of mass event over a city how do

1118
00:53:17,900 --> 00:53:16,440
you how do you see it happening well

1119
00:53:21,050 --> 00:53:17,910
from what I understand it's going to be

1120
00:53:24,580 --> 00:53:21,060
a number of different things from what I

1121
00:53:28,970 --> 00:53:24,590
understand the body on planet earth that

1122
00:53:31,060 --> 00:53:28,980
they are currently in talks with I guess

1123
00:53:33,650 --> 00:53:31,070
you could say have been negotiating with

1124
00:53:36,650 --> 00:53:33,660
because from their point of view this is

1125
00:53:39,830 --> 00:53:36,660
an intervention effort a humanitarian

1126
00:53:42,650 --> 00:53:39,840
intervention effort and you know they

1127
00:53:46,130 --> 00:53:42,660
plan to offer operate very much like the

1128
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:46,140
Red Cross would operate and yeah they've

1129
00:53:53,870 --> 00:53:50,370
been on their way now for you know well

1130
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:53,880
over a decade trying to get here a bunch

1131
00:54:01,580 --> 00:53:56,640
of these advanced races because we're

1132
00:54:06,860 --> 00:54:01,590
stuck in a corner of 3d 4d reality you

1133
00:54:08,420 --> 00:54:06,870
know at the end of you know the Milky

1134
00:54:10,670 --> 00:54:08,430
Way you know and if you look at the

1135
00:54:12,980 --> 00:54:10,680
spiral galaxy that is the Milky Way

1136
00:54:14,060 --> 00:54:12,990
we're on one of the outside arms and

1137
00:54:17,330 --> 00:54:14,070
we're kind of pointed in the right

1138
00:54:19,310 --> 00:54:17,340
direction so it's taken them quite a

1139
00:54:22,220 --> 00:54:19,320
while to get here but yeah they they

1140
00:54:23,810 --> 00:54:22,230
plan you know this whole effort this

1141
00:54:25,460 --> 00:54:23,820
whole time you know working with people

1142
00:54:28,250 --> 00:54:25,470
like me and all of the other work that

1143
00:54:30,410 --> 00:54:28,260
I've done with other experiencers and

1144
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:30,420
contactees of all sorts and it's

1145
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:32,250
estimated that probably one in ten

1146
00:54:37,070 --> 00:54:34,050
people have had some sort of UFO

1147
00:54:41,620 --> 00:54:37,080
sighting worldwide yeah so a lot of

1148
00:54:45,050 --> 00:54:41,630
people well okay so what you are

1149
00:54:47,500 --> 00:54:45,060
suggesting here is that there is a

1150
00:54:51,020 --> 00:54:47,510
negotiation that it's a negotiation

1151
00:54:56,510 --> 00:54:51,030
conversation that is going on in front

1152
00:54:58,970 --> 00:54:56,520
of some type of et exposure the UN has

1153
00:55:02,330 --> 00:54:58,980
an outer space agency that was created

1154
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:02,340
in 2010 right and I've been told that

1155
00:55:07,940 --> 00:55:04,890
the outer space agency is involved but

1156
00:55:09,980 --> 00:55:07,950
there are obviously a lot of bodies

1157
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:09,990
involved and I mean both you know

1158
00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:13,290
individual bodies you know and other

1159
00:55:17,970 --> 00:55:16,000
organizations because

1160
00:55:21,060 --> 00:55:17,980
you know we're basically either trying

1161
00:55:22,590 --> 00:55:21,070
to get two open contact and you know

1162
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:22,600
obviously there's been a quarantine

1163
00:55:28,430 --> 00:55:24,370
period and you know kind of all the

1164
00:55:32,790 --> 00:55:28,440
things you would expect the the teams

1165
00:55:35,550 --> 00:55:32,800
you know that many of the EXO conscious

1166
00:55:37,350 --> 00:55:35,560
or experiencer types are working with

1167
00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:37,360
are working on their language skills

1168
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:39,760
they're trying to understand our culture

1169
00:55:44,910 --> 00:55:42,880
they're trying to understand you know

1170
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:44,920
the state of our science of our

1171
00:55:48,990 --> 00:55:47,530
technology and all sorts of things

1172
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:49,000
because they're trying to figure out how

1173
00:55:53,730 --> 00:55:51,130
they can help best and they've highly

1174
00:55:55,620 --> 00:55:53,740
you know we're having a lot of trouble

1175
00:55:58,650 --> 00:55:55,630
with this to begin with

1176
00:56:00,630 --> 00:55:58,660
but as they started handing over more

1177
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:00,640
scientific knowledge and doing things

1178
00:56:04,740 --> 00:56:02,650
like solving mathematical proofs that we

1179
00:56:09,590 --> 00:56:04,750
haven't been able to solve for decades

1180
00:56:12,860 --> 00:56:09,600
you know and apparently the earth-based

1181
00:56:15,390 --> 00:56:12,870
delegations became a lot more receptive

1182
00:56:18,060 --> 00:56:15,400
because we can't even imagine the kind

1183
00:56:19,860 --> 00:56:18,070
of technology progress that this is

1184
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:19,870
going to allow for us and the sorts of

1185
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:21,490
problems we're going to be able to solve

1186
00:56:25,710 --> 00:56:23,650
with technology you know I multum Utley

1187
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:25,720
a technophile I do believe we need to be

1188
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:27,130
conscious and thoughtful about the

1189
00:56:31,410 --> 00:56:29,530
technology that we create and how we use

1190
00:56:33,300 --> 00:56:31,420
it and need to respond when there are

1191
00:56:35,310 --> 00:56:33,310
unintended consequences but

1192
00:56:39,090 --> 00:56:35,320
fundamentally I believe technology will

1193
00:56:40,470 --> 00:56:39,100
save us and are we ready for it well

1194
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:40,480
that's what this whole effort has been

1195
00:56:44,460 --> 00:56:42,370
about and here's how I would explain it

1196
00:56:48,510 --> 00:56:44,470
to you even though I might talk about

1197
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:48,520
these beings be being et if you go out

1198
00:56:53,070 --> 00:56:51,040
and you look at the data it turns out

1199
00:56:57,930 --> 00:56:53,080
that up to 28 percent of people

1200
00:57:00,240 --> 00:56:57,940
worldwide will say that they've heard

1201
00:57:01,860 --> 00:57:00,250
voices inside their head at some point

1202
00:57:04,140 --> 00:57:01,870
or another voices that they're not sure

1203
00:57:06,330 --> 00:57:04,150
who it is you know or they think it's

1204
00:57:08,250 --> 00:57:06,340
God or they think it's Jesus or alien or

1205
00:57:11,340 --> 00:57:08,260
aliens or they think it's angels or they

1206
00:57:12,810 --> 00:57:11,350
think it's fairies or you know you know

1207
00:57:14,550 --> 00:57:12,820
in Buddhist countries they might think

1208
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:14,560
something else in Hindu countries they

1209
00:57:19,220 --> 00:57:16,530
might think I think some something else

1210
00:57:22,260 --> 00:57:19,230
because the whole effort has been about

1211
00:57:24,990 --> 00:57:22,270
raising consciousness raising vibration

1212
00:57:27,390 --> 00:57:25,000
trying to get people thinking more

1213
00:57:29,550 --> 00:57:27,400
positively helping people heal from

1214
00:57:29,970 --> 00:57:29,560
trauma I'm a trauma survivor myself so a

1215
00:57:32,910 --> 00:57:29,980
lot of

1216
00:57:37,050 --> 00:57:32,920
the work that my team does with me is

1217
00:57:39,150 --> 00:57:37,060
you basically talk therapy you know 24/7

1218
00:57:40,830 --> 00:57:39,160
whatever problems I'm having they're

1219
00:57:43,980 --> 00:57:40,840
there they're very sympathetic they're

1220
00:57:45,390 --> 00:57:43,990
trying to help me solve my problems you

1221
00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:45,400
know so it's been a really positive

1222
00:57:49,770 --> 00:57:48,160
experience for me and you know just if

1223
00:57:51,830 --> 00:57:49,780
you don't mind if I circle back to free

1224
00:57:54,359 --> 00:57:51,840
again the dr. Edgar Mitchell foundation

1225
00:57:57,570 --> 00:57:54,369
the data from their study of

1226
00:58:00,450 --> 00:57:57,580
experiencers which includes about 4,000

1227
00:58:06,330 --> 00:58:00,460
experiencers I think at this point 85%

1228
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:06,340
of the experiencers talk about those

1229
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:08,770
experiences being extremely positive and

1230
00:58:13,620 --> 00:58:10,480
things that they want to continue to

1231
00:58:15,090 --> 00:58:13,630
experience so even though a lot of

1232
00:58:18,030 --> 00:58:15,100
different people in our world have

1233
00:58:19,980 --> 00:58:18,040
different ways of talking about it a lot

1234
00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:19,990
of people are having the same kind of

1235
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:21,910
experience does that make sense to you

1236
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:23,290
you know but there's a huge number of

1237
00:58:28,260 --> 00:58:25,090
people who would say it's Jesus they're

1238
00:58:31,349 --> 00:58:28,270
talking to and you know that might be

1239
00:58:33,450 --> 00:58:31,359
true because you know the there's

1240
00:58:35,490 --> 00:58:33,460
something called a Christ consciousness

1241
00:58:37,859 --> 00:58:35,500
which is a whole bunch of beings who are

1242
00:58:40,290 --> 00:58:37,869
aligned with kind of that message in

1243
00:58:42,270 --> 00:58:40,300
that way of being but you know the way I

1244
00:58:45,180 --> 00:58:42,280
kind of parse it all because it can be

1245
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:45,190
so confusing is you know I look for

1246
00:58:48,420 --> 00:58:46,810
things that are positive I you know

1247
00:58:52,020 --> 00:58:48,430
things that I can kind of see the light

1248
00:58:53,970 --> 00:58:52,030
in for the most part you know when I'm

1249
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:53,980
looking for you know spiritual content

1250
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:56,170
or disclosure related content that I can

1251
00:59:01,290 --> 00:58:58,090
kind of relate to and there are a lot of

1252
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:01,300
people we have several advisers as part

1253
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:03,850
of the disclosure activists grant

1254
00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:05,890
Cameron is one Victor V Gianni is

1255
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:09,520
another Cheryl Costa is one and you know

1256
00:59:14,670 --> 00:59:12,490
so and a bunch of people who are more

1257
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:14,680
involved in the exo conscious side of

1258
00:59:19,890 --> 00:59:16,690
things so dr. Rebecca Hardcastle right

1259
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:19,900
Georgio Piacenza various people like

1260
00:59:24,349 --> 00:59:22,210
that so we've been kind of trying to

1261
00:59:27,780 --> 00:59:24,359
connect these dots and kind of unify

1262
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:27,790
various forces within the movement so

1263
00:59:33,180 --> 00:59:30,250
that we can be more effective and so

1264
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:33,190
that audiences can understand better you

1265
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:34,930
know what is this really all about you

1266
00:59:39,870 --> 00:59:36,910
know what is this thing you do we need

1267
00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:39,880
to be scared or can we be excited or you

1268
00:59:43,020 --> 00:59:41,440
know what have you so my message is

1269
00:59:43,780 --> 00:59:43,030
really that this could be the most

1270
00:59:45,100 --> 00:59:43,790
positive thing

1271
00:59:47,290 --> 00:59:45,110
that's ever happened you know to

1272
00:59:48,730 --> 00:59:47,300
humanity and it's certainly needed at

1273
00:59:49,770 --> 00:59:48,740
this point and yeah I think we can

1274
00:59:52,690 --> 00:59:49,780
handle it

1275
00:59:54,580 --> 00:59:52,700
because we have a lot of people you know

1276
00:59:56,410 --> 00:59:54,590
50% of the people on this planet are

1277
00:59:58,870 --> 00:59:56,420
under the age of 25 and they've grown up

1278
01:00:01,540 --> 00:59:58,880
digital so I think we can handle it yeah

1279
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:01,550
I think you're right on that part but

1280
01:00:12,430 --> 01:00:08,890
there is when we look at things like

1281
01:00:16,510 --> 01:00:12,440
Christianity or the Muslim side of

1282
01:00:19,870 --> 01:00:16,520
things and world religions how that

1283
01:00:22,380 --> 01:00:19,880
we're talking about you know 3 billion

1284
01:00:27,010 --> 01:00:22,390
people right there on this planet right

1285
01:00:30,310 --> 01:00:27,020
two or three religions that may or may

1286
01:00:32,350 --> 01:00:30,320
not react in a positive way not not

1287
01:00:37,870 --> 01:00:32,360
necessarily in a negative way but

1288
01:00:40,780 --> 01:00:37,880
certainly their beliefs and their their

1289
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:40,790
very being their lives will come

1290
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:42,890
crashing down on them what would result

1291
01:00:50,770 --> 01:00:47,090
from that or the other side of it is 3

1292
01:00:54,550 --> 01:00:50,780
billion of those out there might just go

1293
01:00:58,570 --> 01:00:54,560
you know what is so what I knew it well

1294
01:01:00,790 --> 01:00:58,580
this is the Vatican has for years been

1295
01:01:05,190 --> 01:01:00,800
talking about our extraterrestrial

1296
01:01:08,350 --> 01:01:05,200
brothers and so has the Dalai Lama and

1297
01:01:10,180 --> 01:01:08,360
you know I'm not deeply familiar you

1298
01:01:13,930 --> 01:01:10,190
know with what say you know Muslim

1299
01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:13,940
clerics talk about but you know Allah is

1300
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:16,400
the judeo-christian God I mean it's the

1301
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:17,810
same God and this is very well

1302
01:01:21,940 --> 01:01:20,090
established and in Islam as well they

1303
01:01:24,370 --> 01:01:21,950
consider Jesus Christ to be a prophet

1304
01:01:27,340 --> 01:01:24,380
and you know it's all kind of copacetic

1305
01:01:28,870 --> 01:01:27,350
and coexistence oriented you know when

1306
01:01:31,420 --> 01:01:28,880
you kind of start digging under the

1307
01:01:34,030 --> 01:01:31,430
covers so I think the religions will be

1308
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:34,040
fine I think they will all come out and

1309
01:01:43,690 --> 01:01:37,130
say oh yes all God's children it's

1310
01:01:48,690 --> 01:01:43,700
wonderful my thought is is polluted as

1311
01:01:51,850 --> 01:01:48,700
this is wouldn't it just be an

1312
01:01:55,030 --> 01:01:51,860
interesting twist on things if we did

1313
01:01:57,130 --> 01:01:55,040
have the you know the the famous flying

1314
01:01:59,530 --> 01:01:57,140
sauce from the White House lawn or

1315
01:02:02,920 --> 01:01:59,540
on the 405 freeway here in Los Angeles

1316
01:02:05,980 --> 01:02:02,930
right and it comes down on land and the

1317
01:02:08,710 --> 01:02:05,990
the stair steps come down and we're see

1318
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:08,720
the feet then we see their legs and then

1319
01:02:16,870 --> 01:02:13,130
boom he looks like Jesus right and you

1320
01:02:20,260 --> 01:02:16,880
know I don't know I none of us do but

1321
01:02:23,590 --> 01:02:20,270
wouldn't that just be interesting and I

1322
01:02:26,020 --> 01:02:23,600
I'm okay with that actually it's it it's

1323
01:02:29,170 --> 01:02:26,030
kind of a weird thought but you just

1324
01:02:31,150 --> 01:02:29,180
never know we could all be wrong yeah

1325
01:02:33,730 --> 01:02:31,160
well you know I I like to say that

1326
01:02:36,010 --> 01:02:33,740
aliens are people too because that's

1327
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:36,020
kind of my experience you know and they

1328
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:38,090
they call themselves beings all the time

1329
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:40,370
and I tend to refer to them as people

1330
01:02:45,130 --> 01:02:42,490
and you know they seem like people to me

1331
01:02:46,690 --> 01:02:45,140
and they will we will find that most of

1332
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:46,700
them look very much like us and the

1333
01:02:53,110 --> 01:02:49,850
reason for that of course is that if you

1334
01:02:54,700 --> 01:02:53,120
look it at humanity as a species Homo

1335
01:02:57,100 --> 01:02:54,710
sapiens or even some of the other

1336
01:02:58,980 --> 01:02:57,110
hominids that there have been over time

1337
01:03:01,420 --> 01:02:58,990
there's you know there's a qualitative

1338
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:01,430
difference an order of magnitude

1339
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:05,210
difference between say US and most of

1340
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:07,130
the animals species on our world I mean

1341
01:03:11,140 --> 01:03:08,930
in terms of how we use language in terms

1342
01:03:13,450 --> 01:03:11,150
of how we use tools in terms of the

1343
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:13,460
complex civilizations we build you know

1344
01:03:17,830 --> 01:03:15,770
very very different from most animal

1345
01:03:20,050 --> 01:03:17,840
species so you know it's really

1346
01:03:23,110 --> 01:03:20,060
important you know to kind of keep in

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01:03:25,690 --> 01:03:23,120
mind that and if you think about it it's

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01:03:28,270 --> 01:03:25,700
it's it's all very logical like how

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01:03:31,420 --> 01:03:28,280
would advanced civilizations go about

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01:03:33,430 --> 01:03:31,430
seeding life on a planet and developing

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01:03:35,620 --> 01:03:33,440
you know again remember this is a big

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01:03:37,300 --> 01:03:35,630
virtual world you know so how do they

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01:03:38,980 --> 01:03:37,310
develop our world how do they develop

1354
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:38,990
the animal species on our world the

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01:03:45,910 --> 01:03:43,490
plant species etc and you know they they

1356
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:45,920
are you know much more advanced than a

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01:03:49,750 --> 01:03:47,810
lot of us are you know technologically

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01:03:52,750 --> 01:03:49,760
so it might seem very strange but I

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01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:52,760
think the big aha for everybody is going

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01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:54,770
to be oh my god they're not little green

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01:03:59,860 --> 01:03:57,170
men they're not little gray aliens you

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01:04:03,220 --> 01:03:59,870
know I mean these beings who are here to

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01:04:05,110 --> 01:04:03,230
help us are basically just like us and

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01:04:07,420 --> 01:04:05,120
at some point you know some people might

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01:04:09,010 --> 01:04:07,430
have called them creator gods they like

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01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:09,020
to call themselves with me master

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01:04:13,010 --> 01:04:10,970
geneticists

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01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:13,020
you know they don't like to be called

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01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:15,810
creator odds but you know you know these

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01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:19,170
these some of these races you know have

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01:04:22,700 --> 01:04:20,850
been involved in the seeding of our

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01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:22,710
planet and the seeding of other planets

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01:04:25,970 --> 01:04:24,210
and even though they like to talk and

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01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:25,980
Star Trek about the prime directive and

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01:04:30,290 --> 01:04:28,530
all of this that's actually not the way

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01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:30,300
they tend to approach things because

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01:04:34,310 --> 01:04:32,250
they've said that civilizations need

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01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:34,320
mentorship they need guidance there are

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01:04:38,330 --> 01:04:36,210
certain self-destructive tendencies that

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01:04:41,180 --> 01:04:38,340
tend to kick in if there isn't the right

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01:04:43,130 --> 01:04:41,190
kind of guidance you know and a

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01:04:45,290 --> 01:04:43,140
spiritual journey if you will that a

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01:04:48,290 --> 01:04:45,300
civilization is on and that's why so

1384
01:04:50,359 --> 01:04:48,300
much of the preparation has been about

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01:04:52,580 --> 01:04:50,369
helping people on their spiritual

1386
01:04:54,740 --> 01:04:52,590
journeys and becoming more conscious of

1387
01:04:58,850 --> 01:04:54,750
becoming more aware and woke and all of

1388
01:05:02,390 --> 01:04:58,860
this kind of stuff well now we have the

1389
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:02,400
mass media that has been covering the

1390
01:05:08,330 --> 01:05:05,970
UFO subject pretty aggressively since

1391
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:08,340
December we don't need to that's been

1392
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:11,610
amazing to see very cold so see facet

1393
01:05:16,099 --> 01:05:13,530
deserves a lot of credit for that he

1394
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:16,109
made a lot of breakthroughs with the

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01:05:20,300 --> 01:05:18,090
media a few if you go look at paradigm

1396
01:05:22,430 --> 01:05:20,310
research group and look at the media

1397
01:05:23,930 --> 01:05:22,440
coverage that that he was able to get

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01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:23,940
with paradigm research group with

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01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:25,890
everything they did the Citizen hearing

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01:05:30,140 --> 01:05:27,570
on disclosure and you know many

1401
01:05:32,210 --> 01:05:30,150
subsequent events as well that's been a

1402
01:05:35,300 --> 01:05:32,220
real real breakthrough and yeah we're

1403
01:05:37,580 --> 01:05:35,310
seeing stuff now Tom DeLonge also you

1404
01:05:39,590 --> 01:05:37,590
know gets a lot of credit he's he's a

1405
01:05:42,230 --> 01:05:39,600
bit controversial because I think a lot

1406
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:42,240
of people don't understand that although

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01:05:46,190 --> 01:05:44,130
he wasn't like a serious UFO

1408
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:46,200
investigator you know he was a hobbyist

1409
01:05:51,770 --> 01:05:49,170
UFO investigator for a long time and he

1410
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:51,780
decided to use his platform and actually

1411
01:05:56,030 --> 01:05:53,130
gave up

1412
01:05:59,060 --> 01:05:56,040
blink-182 formed this new band Angels

1413
01:06:00,260 --> 01:05:59,070
and Airwaves and has been you know hard

1414
01:06:02,359 --> 01:06:00,270
at work on many of the same

1415
01:06:05,210 --> 01:06:02,369
consciousness related activities the

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01:06:09,170 --> 01:06:05,220
rest of us are on so and as a pop

1417
01:06:11,300 --> 01:06:09,180
culture icon has a platform and an

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01:06:13,010 --> 01:06:11,310
audience that he was able to use to get

1419
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:13,020
this information out of the echo chamber

1420
01:06:19,070 --> 01:06:16,050
and had the clout to get the DoD to

1421
01:06:20,690 --> 01:06:19,080
cooperate with him and you know start to

1422
01:06:22,490 --> 01:06:20,700
put this information out there which you

1423
01:06:23,810 --> 01:06:22,500
know people like grant Cameron have been

1424
01:06:25,610 --> 01:06:23,820
you know talking about for

1425
01:06:27,410 --> 01:06:25,620
years now that you know this is the plan

1426
01:06:30,020 --> 01:06:27,420
you know there's definitely a plan for

1427
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:30,030
this to happen so that that formal

1428
01:06:37,130 --> 01:06:34,410
disclosure has started to happen but you

1429
01:06:41,300 --> 01:06:37,140
know I think for us the Holy Grail is

1430
01:06:44,180 --> 01:06:41,310
you know a major world government you

1431
01:06:45,110 --> 01:06:44,190
know having the press conference and

1432
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:45,120
saying yep

1433
01:06:49,130 --> 01:06:47,490
they've been here we haven't told you

1434
01:06:50,690 --> 01:06:49,140
this whole time because you know we've

1435
01:06:52,550 --> 01:06:50,700
been vetting them and we haven't been

1436
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:52,560
sure and yeah there was some terrible

1437
01:06:57,020 --> 01:06:54,090
stuff that happened but that's not

1438
01:07:00,980 --> 01:06:57,030
that's not these people and you know so

1439
01:07:03,500 --> 01:07:00,990
there's gonna be an extended explanation

1440
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:03,510
process I I guess you could say and then

1441
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:05,130
there's gonna be the question that

1442
01:07:10,190 --> 01:07:07,410
everyone's gonna ask well what what what

1443
01:07:12,350 --> 01:07:10,200
does this mean for Humanity and you know

1444
01:07:16,370 --> 01:07:12,360
my favorite quote is from a computer

1445
01:07:18,500 --> 01:07:16,380
scientist whose name is Alan Kay who

1446
01:07:23,330 --> 01:07:18,510
says the best way to predict the future

1447
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:23,340
is to invent it and my team constantly

1448
01:07:27,530 --> 01:07:25,530
says this to me the best way to predict

1449
01:07:29,150 --> 01:07:27,540
the future is to invent it so you know

1450
01:07:32,450 --> 01:07:29,160
we're in the process of inventing a

1451
01:07:34,460 --> 01:07:32,460
future that works for everybody and you

1452
01:07:36,590 --> 01:07:34,470
know that's what I myself am deeply

1453
01:07:38,450 --> 01:07:36,600
passionate about and we need to get rid

1454
01:07:40,580 --> 01:07:38,460
of war and violence and scarcity

1455
01:07:43,310 --> 01:07:40,590
thinking and just this terrible terrible

1456
01:07:47,540 --> 01:07:43,320
stuff that's sucking the life out of our

1457
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:47,550
civilization and you know move on to a

1458
01:07:52,910 --> 01:07:50,490
paradigm that's about abundance and

1459
01:07:54,620 --> 01:07:52,920
equality and justice and fairness and

1460
01:07:58,580 --> 01:07:54,630
everybody getting a fair shake and

1461
01:08:01,130 --> 01:07:58,590
seeing you know humanity flower in you

1462
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:01,140
know the way we we all know we can you

1463
01:08:04,910 --> 01:08:02,250
know we just kind of need the

1464
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:04,920
opportunity and we kind of need you know

1465
01:08:09,590 --> 01:08:06,930
we kind of need the adults to show up on

1466
01:08:11,930 --> 01:08:09,600
the playground and say okay hey you over

1467
01:08:15,530 --> 01:08:11,940
there you over there you sit down you do

1468
01:08:18,860 --> 01:08:15,540
this well there's that part of it and

1469
01:08:20,780 --> 01:08:18,870
I've only got two minutes left so it'll

1470
01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:20,790
be a quick question with a quick answer

1471
01:08:27,650 --> 01:08:24,960
which is this community gets that we

1472
01:08:30,410 --> 01:08:27,660
totally understand it but what about you

1473
01:08:33,500 --> 01:08:30,420
in your job walking down the halls of

1474
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:33,510
say Microsoft or Amazon talking about

1475
01:08:37,380 --> 01:08:36,210
disclosure in UFOs are we at that point

1476
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:37,390
do you feel comfortable

1477
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:40,930
doing that or do you do it now no I've

1478
01:08:45,900 --> 01:08:43,090
been in hiding and you know I was also

1479
01:08:47,670 --> 01:08:45,910
doing work with anonymous so I have a

1480
01:08:49,470 --> 01:08:47,680
lot of kind of activism and different

1481
01:08:53,910 --> 01:08:49,480
work that I kind of keep on the down-low

1482
01:08:56,970 --> 01:08:53,920
but I've become a lot more open in the

1483
01:08:59,190 --> 01:08:56,980
in the last year or two because it's

1484
01:09:01,350 --> 01:08:59,200
definitely time now for us to be having

1485
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:01,360
these conversations but now you've got

1486
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:06,010
to keep politics religion sex and aliens

1487
01:09:10,440 --> 01:09:08,130
out of business so I'm sorry

1488
01:09:12,780 --> 01:09:10,450
you're not gonna want to miss tomorrow

1489
01:09:14,850 --> 01:09:12,790
night's show I've got Barrett Brown on

1490
01:09:17,390 --> 01:09:14,860
the show yeah tomorrow night bare Browns

1491
01:09:20,460 --> 01:09:17,400
on I've had a Gregg Housh on the show

1492
01:09:23,970 --> 01:09:20,470
I've had quite a few of the key players

1493
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:23,980
of from anonymous here you should you

1494
01:09:32,070 --> 01:09:28,410
should listen to me I'm an unmasked anon

1495
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:32,080
I've been working with anonymous for oh

1496
01:09:37,500 --> 01:09:35,770
gosh five or six years or so and you

1497
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:37,510
know I kind of I'm really interested in

1498
01:09:41,460 --> 01:09:39,130
movements in general and I also do work

1499
01:09:43,740 --> 01:09:41,470
with the resistance movement so I do a

1500
01:09:48,930 --> 01:09:43,750
whole bunch of you know different things

1501
01:09:51,390 --> 01:09:48,940
I like this concept of activism I called

1502
01:09:53,790 --> 01:09:51,400
myself a culture hacker right so I don't

1503
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:53,800
actually do any illegal hacking you know

1504
01:10:00,300 --> 01:09:56,050
but I'm happy to try and change people's

1505
01:10:02,580 --> 01:10:00,310
minds and - have you been to any of the

1506
01:10:05,550 --> 01:10:02,590
conference's like hope in New York I

1507
01:10:07,740 --> 01:10:05,560
have not you've got to go to hope oh

1508
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:07,750
okay you've got to go to hope hope is

1509
01:10:12,870 --> 01:10:10,330
absolutely amazing so if you ever get a

1510
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:12,880
chance it's at the Roosevelt Hotel there

1511
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:14,650
in Manhattan we went a couple of years

1512
01:10:21,420 --> 01:10:17,770
ago and that was one of you know that's

1513
01:10:23,580 --> 01:10:21,430
a bucket list thing so dr. Lisa thank

1514
01:10:27,420 --> 01:10:23,590
you so much and I want to let everybody

1515
01:10:28,470 --> 01:10:27,430
know the website is disclosure activists

1516
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:28,480
dot org

1517
01:10:33,390 --> 01:10:31,090
the links are over at Jimmy Church radio

1518
01:10:35,820 --> 01:10:33,400
comm and I want to invite you back onto

1519
01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:35,830
the show where we can do a full show on

1520
01:10:40,860 --> 01:10:38,800
TAC and futurism and of course talk

1521
01:10:43,050 --> 01:10:40,870
about UFOs and your experiences too as

1522
01:10:44,850 --> 01:10:43,060
well thank you so much I'd love that

1523
01:10:47,310 --> 01:10:44,860
Jimmy thank you so much you have a great

1524
01:10:49,570 --> 01:10:47,320
night great conversation thank you dr.

1525
01:10:52,900 --> 01:10:49,580
Lisa dr. Lisa Gallardo right

1526
01:10:55,690 --> 01:10:52,910
the disclosure activists the disclosure

1527
01:10:58,570 --> 01:10:55,700
activist dot org camera to take a little

1528
01:11:00,280 --> 01:10:58,580
break and I'll be right back with Steve

1529
01:11:02,780 --> 01:11:00,290
Bassett you stay right there this is

1530
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:02,790
fade to black

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01:11:08,650 --> 01:11:18,470
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welcome back fade to black Community

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Church follow me on twitter at je Church

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check this out he has given over 1,000

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would like to welcome back to fade to

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black one and only Steve Bassett Steve

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good evening I had um is gonna be with

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you again it's absolutely good to hear

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your voice my friend and how fade to

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black t-shirt I remember like five years

1610
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:41,550
ago I threw you one and you looked at it

1611
01:15:49,270 --> 01:15:44,130
and you said I'm too old to wear this

1612
01:15:54,350 --> 01:15:51,760
[Laughter]

1613
01:15:56,060 --> 01:15:54,360
well I was picture you wearing the

1614
01:15:57,740 --> 01:15:56,070
t-shirt and I went you know I'm gonna go

1615
01:16:00,230 --> 01:15:57,750
with Steve on this I'll take it back

1616
01:16:01,790 --> 01:16:00,240
take it back one day I'm gonna get a

1617
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:01,800
picture of you wearing a faded black

1618
01:16:08,060 --> 01:16:04,410
t-shirt and the world will shift on its

1619
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:08,070
axis it could happen it could happen I I

1620
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:11,850
firmly believe that now Steve the

1621
01:16:19,430 --> 01:16:16,890
disclosure movement you are the

1622
01:16:21,410 --> 01:16:19,440
disclosure oh gee and before you ask me

1623
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:21,420
what Oh G means that that means you're

1624
01:16:27,260 --> 01:16:24,330
too old but you are indeed that for our

1625
01:16:30,230 --> 01:16:27,270
community that's you know we look up to

1626
01:16:33,260 --> 01:16:30,240
you not only for your words but for your

1627
01:16:36,500 --> 01:16:33,270
effort too as well where do you think we

1628
01:16:40,190 --> 01:16:36,510
are today after you know over 20 years

1629
01:16:40,930 --> 01:16:40,200
doing this activism Steve where are we

1630
01:16:42,610 --> 01:16:40,940
today

1631
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:42,620
mhm

1632
01:16:48,670 --> 01:16:45,770
we were in a very complicated place I've

1633
01:16:51,210 --> 01:16:48,680
lived through a lot of complicated times

1634
01:16:53,530 --> 01:16:51,220
from the standpoint of the United States

1635
01:16:55,210 --> 01:16:53,540
the world gets more complicated every

1636
01:16:59,580 --> 01:16:55,220
year regardless of where you are on the

1637
01:17:02,710 --> 01:16:59,590
planet but I was born just after the war

1638
01:17:06,550 --> 01:17:02,720
the Korean War was going on in my first

1639
01:17:09,450 --> 01:17:06,560
years the Vietnam War started really got

1640
01:17:13,150 --> 01:17:09,460
going just as I left for college after

1641
01:17:15,820 --> 01:17:13,160
college and the wasn't long before the

1642
01:17:17,590 --> 01:17:15,830
Watergate scandal broke and then other

1643
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:17,600
scandals broke the church Commission

1644
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:21,650
then the the scandals that the Reagan

1645
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:24,770
administration and Clinton scandals on

1646
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:28,370
and on a lot of chaos this this is this

1647
01:17:34,780 --> 01:17:32,810
is bigger than any of that so that's

1648
01:17:38,190 --> 01:17:34,790
complicated and then the other thing is

1649
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:38,200
is that the the advocacy movement has

1650
01:17:45,570 --> 01:17:41,690
pushed or it's helped to bring the truth

1651
01:17:48,610 --> 01:17:45,580
embargo up to the edge so it's it's

1652
01:17:53,170 --> 01:17:48,620
right there could go it could very

1653
01:17:55,570 --> 01:17:53,180
easily end it's it's it's right near the

1654
01:17:59,620 --> 01:17:55,580
finish line but it's going to be hard to

1655
01:18:01,810 --> 01:17:59,630
push it over so that's in the works and

1656
01:18:04,390 --> 01:18:01,820
so this this is extremely difficult to

1657
01:18:09,730 --> 01:18:04,400
navigate and if you if you listen to

1658
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:09,740
people on new shows talking about their

1659
01:18:17,260 --> 01:18:13,010
plans or election campaigns or anything

1660
01:18:19,570 --> 01:18:17,270
that involves future planning you sense

1661
01:18:22,180 --> 01:18:19,580
their befuddling they're just not sure

1662
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:22,190
what to do they're confused they've gone

1663
01:18:26,980 --> 01:18:24,530
down the rabbit hole and they're down

1664
01:18:28,300 --> 01:18:26,990
there eating cake and getting larger and

1665
01:18:29,740 --> 01:18:28,310
drinking something and getting smaller

1666
01:18:31,690 --> 01:18:29,750
and there's a red queen and white

1667
01:18:32,890 --> 01:18:31,700
rabbits running around it it's really

1668
01:18:33,420 --> 01:18:32,900
very bizarre now this is not a good

1669
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:33,430
thing

1670
01:18:39,010 --> 01:18:35,570
particularly when you've got I know how

1671
01:18:41,590 --> 01:18:39,020
many 15,000 10,000 nuclear weapons many

1672
01:18:44,530 --> 01:18:41,600
of which are on launch alert and you've

1673
01:18:47,260 --> 01:18:44,540
got a world that's constantly in one

1674
01:18:50,950 --> 01:18:47,270
form of instability or another now good

1675
01:18:52,750 --> 01:18:50,960
so that's that's what we're at now the

1676
01:18:55,690 --> 01:18:52,760
fact is is that when you have times of

1677
01:18:56,500 --> 01:18:55,700
chaos sometimes extraordinary things

1678
01:18:59,860 --> 01:18:56,510
will happen

1679
01:19:02,920 --> 01:18:59,870
because the normal routines are

1680
01:19:07,770 --> 01:19:02,930
disrupted right certain barriers are

1681
01:19:10,420 --> 01:19:07,780
dropped so it wouldn't surprise me if

1682
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:10,430
that actually contributed to the embargo

1683
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:12,530
finally ending but the ending of the

1684
01:19:18,580 --> 01:19:15,770
truth embargo is a non-trivial thing as

1685
01:19:20,110 --> 01:19:18,590
you know Jimmy it's it's it's not going

1686
01:19:22,630 --> 01:19:20,120
to be easy right up until the day it

1687
01:19:26,140 --> 01:19:22,640
happens there are just so many

1688
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:26,150
conflicting views on it and internal

1689
01:19:35,020 --> 01:19:29,650
dissent within our own government but

1690
01:19:37,570 --> 01:19:35,030
because more nations are have already

1691
01:19:41,050 --> 01:19:37,580
done some things which show that they're

1692
01:19:43,090 --> 01:19:41,060
leaning in that way that kind of creates

1693
01:19:44,830 --> 01:19:43,100
a disclosure race in a sense where

1694
01:19:47,110 --> 01:19:44,840
you've got any number of nations looking

1695
01:19:49,330 --> 01:19:47,120
at each other wondering who would go

1696
01:19:50,710 --> 01:19:49,340
first who's going to be first like who's

1697
01:19:51,430 --> 01:19:50,720
gonna be first on a moon who's gonna be

1698
01:19:54,010 --> 01:19:51,440
first in space

1699
01:19:57,010 --> 01:19:54,020
first on Mars who's gonna be the first

1700
01:19:59,380 --> 01:19:57,020
station to announce et presence so I'm

1701
01:20:00,880 --> 01:19:59,390
optimistic but I can't get too

1702
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:00,890
optimistic because it's so hard to

1703
01:20:05,530 --> 01:20:02,810
project what the hell's going to happen

1704
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:05,540
two weeks from now you've probably gone

1705
01:20:12,220 --> 01:20:09,410
through different emotional tidal waves

1706
01:20:14,590 --> 01:20:12,230
over the years were things to were right

1707
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:14,600
there right right you're look you're

1708
01:20:21,010 --> 01:20:18,050
staring at it and then nothing happens

1709
01:20:22,810 --> 01:20:21,020
or so are you kind of in that mindset

1710
01:20:24,610 --> 01:20:22,820
right now too as well I kind of hear

1711
01:20:26,530 --> 01:20:24,620
that tone in your voice where well I

1712
01:20:31,380 --> 01:20:26,540
think we all can feel it right we all

1713
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:31,390
know something's about to break people

1714
01:20:35,410 --> 01:20:33,770
believe the most of my emotional tidal

1715
01:20:37,930 --> 01:20:35,420
waves but before I got into this work

1716
01:20:42,490 --> 01:20:37,940
getting into this work was the solution

1717
01:20:44,830 --> 01:20:42,500
to my emotional tidal waves but yeah one

1718
01:20:47,710 --> 01:20:44,840
thing that's happening which is notable

1719
01:20:50,470 --> 01:20:47,720
but you think you'd have to be involved

1720
01:20:52,540 --> 01:20:50,480
in this deeply to really pick up on it

1721
01:20:53,860 --> 01:20:52,550
but you probably picked on one too and

1722
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:53,870
that is is that of course this is what I

1723
01:20:59,140 --> 01:20:56,810
wanted all along is that more and more

1724
01:21:02,140 --> 01:20:59,150
people when they think about this issue

1725
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:02,150
are thinking disclosure as opposed to

1726
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:07,250
UFOs that's a significant change UFOs is

1727
01:21:12,470 --> 01:21:10,170
just those unidentified objects which

1728
01:21:14,959 --> 01:21:12,480
the phrase that has been the touchstone

1729
01:21:17,090 --> 01:21:14,969
for all of this for most of the last

1730
01:21:19,250 --> 01:21:17,100
seven decades he can't really go

1731
01:21:21,530 --> 01:21:19,260
anywhere if you're talking about

1732
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:21,540
identified flying objects IFO that's

1733
01:21:24,979 --> 01:21:23,250
would be something better and that's

1734
01:21:27,350 --> 01:21:24,989
what they are means the ones we care

1735
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:27,360
about right disclosure is another matter

1736
01:21:31,100 --> 01:21:29,250
disclosure is not just about something

1737
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:31,110
in the sky disclosure is about the

1738
01:21:35,030 --> 01:21:33,449
imminent announcement and people are

1739
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:35,040
thinking that way too just thinking that

1740
01:21:40,700 --> 01:21:36,690
way means that they are now in a highly

1741
01:21:42,290 --> 01:21:40,710
expectant position state and they're

1742
01:21:45,830 --> 01:21:42,300
getting excited it's hard to get excited

1743
01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:45,840
about another UFO sighting million yeah

1744
01:21:50,390 --> 01:21:48,480
I know I know I kind of get excited

1745
01:21:54,979 --> 01:21:50,400
about them at least when it happens to

1746
01:21:57,310 --> 01:21:54,989
me but there's yeah right right but you

1747
01:22:02,060 --> 01:21:57,320
know what I do find interesting is that

1748
01:22:04,580 --> 01:22:02,070
I can confidently say and others will

1749
01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:04,590
say I don't need disclosure I've seen

1750
01:22:08,050 --> 01:22:06,239
but I've seen I've experienced what I've

1751
01:22:10,700 --> 01:22:08,060
experienced I've seen the evidence I

1752
01:22:13,870 --> 01:22:10,710
don't need it and then there's the rest

1753
01:22:17,060 --> 01:22:13,880
of the community that absolutely

1754
01:22:19,459 --> 01:22:17,070
disclosure to them means one thing the

1755
01:22:21,590 --> 01:22:19,469
head of a state the head of the United

1756
01:22:25,669 --> 01:22:21,600
States whatever steps up to the platform

1757
01:22:28,459 --> 01:22:25,679
and says okay on live TV here we go and

1758
01:22:32,689 --> 01:22:28,469
they won't accept anything but that will

1759
01:22:34,970 --> 01:22:32,699
they well the the activist movement is

1760
01:22:36,590 --> 01:22:34,980
conveniently defined it as that remember

1761
01:22:39,169 --> 01:22:36,600
we're talking about capital D disclosure

1762
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:39,179
right that's what it is so if you want

1763
01:22:43,550 --> 01:22:41,730
to talk about capital D disclosure if

1764
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:43,560
there's not several versions of it

1765
01:22:48,590 --> 01:22:46,170
there's only one version of it and if

1766
01:22:51,250 --> 01:22:48,600
you say I don't need capital D

1767
01:22:54,890 --> 01:22:51,260
disclosure I already know that is

1768
01:22:57,350 --> 01:22:54,900
perfectly legitimate statement I guess

1769
01:22:59,900 --> 01:22:57,360
you could say I'm the same way it's not

1770
01:23:02,540 --> 01:22:59,910
about whether you need it it's the

1771
01:23:05,450 --> 01:23:02,550
country that needs it right the entire

1772
01:23:07,459 --> 01:23:05,460
nation needs it don't think about

1773
01:23:09,830 --> 01:23:07,469
individuals every individual has their

1774
01:23:11,870 --> 01:23:09,840
own view some will be astounded some

1775
01:23:14,300 --> 01:23:11,880
will care less it's the nation that

1776
01:23:19,970 --> 01:23:14,310
needs it because for a number of reasons

1777
01:23:21,740 --> 01:23:19,980
one it's under undermine trust in

1778
01:23:24,050 --> 01:23:21,750
government substantially it's helped to

1779
01:23:26,570 --> 01:23:24,060
create a huge fast now

1780
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:26,580
security state bigger than it needs to

1781
01:23:31,070 --> 01:23:28,770
be and blacker than it needs to be or

1782
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:31,080
darker more classified than it needs to

1783
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:34,290
be the research into it is stymied

1784
01:23:38,450 --> 01:23:37,050
except in the deepest classified

1785
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:38,460
programs there's nothing going on in

1786
01:23:43,130 --> 01:23:40,290
colleges universities not taught

1787
01:23:45,410 --> 01:23:43,140
anywhere in college universities we've

1788
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:45,420
got huge numbers of contact D still in

1789
01:23:49,910 --> 01:23:48,090
the closet they can't come out because

1790
01:23:51,140 --> 01:23:49,920
the truth embargo is essentially based

1791
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:51,150
on the fact that there really isn't

1792
01:23:55,490 --> 01:23:52,850
anything there what's your problem

1793
01:23:59,060 --> 01:23:55,500
there's technology that may very well be

1794
01:24:01,070 --> 01:23:59,070
a huge of a benefit to the nation and

1795
01:24:02,900 --> 01:24:01,080
the human race in general that's not

1796
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:02,910
going to be available because to bring

1797
01:24:06,740 --> 01:24:04,650
that out within the truth embargo so

1798
01:24:09,530 --> 01:24:06,750
it's sequestered I guess you could say

1799
01:24:12,440 --> 01:24:09,540
that's just a short list of all the

1800
01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:12,450
things that can't happen because formal

1801
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:16,320
disclosure has not yet taken place it is

1802
01:24:21,620 --> 01:24:18,810
like opening a door it's like there are

1803
01:24:23,090 --> 01:24:21,630
people that there's a door there and on

1804
01:24:25,460 --> 01:24:23,100
the other side is the post disclosure

1805
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:25,470
world but there's people that already

1806
01:24:31,550 --> 01:24:26,970
know that on the other side of that door

1807
01:24:33,350 --> 01:24:31,560
is the a a formal understanding of the

1808
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:33,360
extraterrestrials but since they already

1809
01:24:36,500 --> 01:24:34,890
know there's extraterrestrials here they

1810
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:36,510
don't feel they need to open the door I

1811
01:24:43,150 --> 01:24:40,530
get that the door has to open in order

1812
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:43,160
for the United States and ultimately

1813
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:46,770
human civilization to go forward right

1814
01:24:54,250 --> 01:24:50,570
now around the world you have a lot of

1815
01:24:58,160 --> 01:24:54,260
substantial number of high end leaders

1816
01:25:00,430 --> 01:24:58,170
and/or groups mostly fanatical that are

1817
01:25:04,690 --> 01:25:00,440
trying to take the human race backwards

1818
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:04,700
Putin is trying to take Russia back to

1819
01:25:11,450 --> 01:25:08,970
1975 we've got some people in Washington

1820
01:25:14,750 --> 01:25:11,460
trying to take the country back to 1960

1821
01:25:16,310 --> 01:25:14,760
others back to 1920 we've got radical

1822
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:16,320
religious groups in the Middle East want

1823
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:18,210
to take us all back about 11 11th

1824
01:25:22,580 --> 01:25:19,770
century mm-hmm

1825
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:22,590
this is not that's interesting we want

1826
01:25:28,610 --> 01:25:24,930
to go we want to go into the future we

1827
01:25:30,770 --> 01:25:28,620
want to prepare for and and advance into

1828
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:30,780
the future as a global civilization is

1829
01:25:36,790 --> 01:25:34,650
there a something is there a see Steve

1830
01:25:41,709 --> 01:25:36,800
is there an underarm

1831
01:25:44,799 --> 01:25:41,719
that Washington could do that

1832
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:44,809
would be a softer blow and is that

1833
01:25:50,830 --> 01:25:47,690
actually what is going on now as opposed

1834
01:25:53,530 --> 01:25:50,840
to the hardcore door opening and forcing

1835
01:25:58,180 --> 01:25:53,540
people through it is there a you know is

1836
01:26:00,459 --> 01:25:58,190
there a slow pitch well there is a in

1837
01:26:02,290 --> 01:26:00,469
fact disclosure process still underway

1838
01:26:05,109 --> 01:26:02,300
for a long time it hits fits and starts

1839
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:05,119
and there's different participants over

1840
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:10,489
the years and that is leading up to the

1841
01:26:15,580 --> 01:26:12,650
big disclosure the Big D but the small

1842
01:26:17,410 --> 01:26:15,590
DS thing going on and you can call a

1843
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:17,420
slow pitch or you could just say well we

1844
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:19,250
haven't got big d disclosure but we can

1845
01:26:23,229 --> 01:26:21,650
continue to do small D so when when

1846
01:26:27,189 --> 01:26:23,239
other governments released UFO FILES

1847
01:26:30,510 --> 01:26:27,199
proactively to the internet small D if

1848
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:30,520
the CIA releases 13 million previously

1849
01:26:34,209 --> 01:26:32,570
Declassified files but not generally

1850
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:34,219
available they did it just before the

1851
01:26:40,899 --> 01:26:37,250
inauguration in 2017 that small d

1852
01:26:44,020 --> 01:26:40,909
disclosure so that is happening without

1853
01:26:45,750 --> 01:26:44,030
question and in the past there been some

1854
01:26:49,510 --> 01:26:45,760
strong times but they would they were

1855
01:26:50,589 --> 01:26:49,520
truncated by historical events and we

1856
01:26:53,740 --> 01:26:50,599
just had that happen again

1857
01:26:54,939 --> 01:26:53,750
so you had we had tuned and this is this

1858
01:26:56,589 --> 01:26:54,949
is the basis of a three-hour

1859
01:26:58,839 --> 01:26:56,599
presentation that I've now developed

1860
01:27:00,280 --> 01:26:58,849
over five months and I've never been

1861
01:27:01,899 --> 01:27:00,290
able to give the whole three hours but

1862
01:27:04,780 --> 01:27:01,909
I've got a couple of to our versions out

1863
01:27:07,330 --> 01:27:04,790
there on YouTube world that essentially

1864
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:07,340
tries to explain the political process

1865
01:27:14,770 --> 01:27:12,290
and story from 93 to 2017 and what it

1866
01:27:16,959 --> 01:27:14,780
comes down to in the fewest words is

1867
01:27:20,049 --> 01:27:16,969
there were there two major political

1868
01:27:25,930 --> 01:27:20,059
stories that finally essentially

1869
01:27:29,260 --> 01:27:25,940
intersected in 2000 and really 2016 one

1870
01:27:31,390 --> 01:27:29,270
of them was the historical connection

1871
01:27:34,780 --> 01:27:31,400
wasn't asked for it just happened

1872
01:27:37,359 --> 01:27:34,790
between the Clinton dynasty the Clinton

1873
01:27:41,020 --> 01:27:37,369
political team beginning right in the

1874
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:41,030
first term of Bill Clinton and the e key

1875
01:27:47,620 --> 01:27:44,570
issue which has followed them down ever

1876
01:27:49,540 --> 01:27:47,630
since 25 years though they have stayed

1877
01:27:50,709 --> 01:27:49,550
away from it not talked about it but

1878
01:27:51,910 --> 01:27:50,719
there have been they have

1879
01:27:54,850 --> 01:27:51,920
occasionally talked about it that was

1880
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:54,860
mostly Podesta they excessive dropping

1881
01:27:59,979 --> 01:27:56,449
breadcrumbs over the years because they

1882
01:28:03,550 --> 01:27:59,989
had a plan and that plan was that SEC

1883
01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:03,560
that Hillary Clinton first lady to bill

1884
01:28:06,939 --> 01:28:05,360
during the Rockefeller initiative was

1885
01:28:08,709 --> 01:28:06,949
going to get the presidency and disclose

1886
01:28:11,110 --> 01:28:08,719
she was going to take the legacy that

1887
01:28:14,170 --> 01:28:11,120
her husband was denied just like Carter

1888
01:28:15,700 --> 01:28:14,180
was denied stonewalled run around some

1889
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:15,710
silly report was put out by the Air

1890
01:28:20,830 --> 01:28:17,330
Force ultimately which is embarrassing

1891
01:28:23,229 --> 01:28:20,840
to everybody concerned and and of course

1892
01:28:25,180 --> 01:28:23,239
they were attacked and in unusual ways

1893
01:28:28,270 --> 01:28:25,190
probably more excessively than some

1894
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:28,280
impeached yeah they had a tough eight

1895
01:28:32,290 --> 01:28:29,810
years and they were not happy or mad as

1896
01:28:34,510 --> 01:28:32,300
hell and the plan was she was going to

1897
01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:34,520
bed forget that legacy when it would

1898
01:28:40,180 --> 01:28:37,520
happen was uncertain and that that had

1899
01:28:44,530 --> 01:28:40,190
been going on for 25 years as we

1900
01:28:51,100 --> 01:28:44,540
approach the election of 2016 and since

1901
01:28:52,870 --> 01:28:51,110
2001 Grant Cameron had put up a great

1902
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:52,880
deal of information on his presidential

1903
01:28:58,240 --> 01:28:55,010
UFO site which is a narrative he put up

1904
01:29:00,250 --> 01:28:58,250
a narrative and kept adding to it but I

1905
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:00,260
was the activists began to shove that

1906
01:29:05,340 --> 01:29:02,810
narrative under the nose of journalists

1907
01:29:09,189 --> 01:29:05,350
and anyone that I thought was relevant

1908
01:29:10,660 --> 01:29:09,199
for the next 15 years and only the truth

1909
01:29:12,310 --> 01:29:10,670
embargo prevented it becoming a major

1910
01:29:13,750 --> 01:29:12,320
story and since the Clinton none of the

1911
01:29:17,110 --> 01:29:13,760
Clinton people would talk about it they

1912
01:29:19,330 --> 01:29:17,120
went on silent except for Podesta the

1913
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:19,340
thing they were able to essentially

1914
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:22,010
continue on into the future without

1915
01:29:26,500 --> 01:29:24,890
having to speak to that issue that is it

1916
01:29:28,450 --> 01:29:26,510
right up until the point she runs for

1917
01:29:30,250 --> 01:29:28,460
the presidency second time that's the

1918
01:29:33,490 --> 01:29:30,260
that's the first political initiative

1919
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:33,500
the second one which end up women are

1920
01:29:39,670 --> 01:29:35,690
being even more important gets put

1921
01:29:42,010 --> 01:29:39,680
together in 2015 and that political

1922
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:42,020
initiative emerges out of the Department

1923
01:29:48,250 --> 01:29:44,930
of Defense and the CIA essentially the

1924
01:29:50,250 --> 01:29:48,260
military intelligence complex and that

1925
01:29:54,850 --> 01:29:50,260
initiative was triggered in my view

1926
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:54,860
because the quite a few people inside

1927
01:29:59,320 --> 01:29:57,130
the military intelligence complex

1928
01:30:01,090 --> 01:29:59,330
looking at their windows and they're

1929
01:30:04,540 --> 01:30:01,100
seeing two things that troubled them

1930
01:30:05,710 --> 01:30:04,550
greatly one was that there were

1931
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:05,720
all these articles being written

1932
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:09,650
throughout all of 2015 into 2016 about

1933
01:30:16,630 --> 01:30:12,290
the connection between the et issue and

1934
01:30:20,110 --> 01:30:16,640
Clinton and Bill and Podesta hundreds of

1935
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:20,120
them that was PR G's doing that was the

1936
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:21,890
new political initiative I was driving

1937
01:30:28,300 --> 01:30:24,890
that out of Washington DC my publicist

1938
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:28,310
was poaching the media and then I was

1939
01:30:33,190 --> 01:30:30,770
building in the television media and I

1940
01:30:34,450 --> 01:30:33,200
was building up connections in the print

1941
01:30:36,190 --> 01:30:34,460
meeting getting these stories out

1942
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:36,200
because it was sufficiently established

1943
01:30:41,140 --> 01:30:38,570
they were going to do it and the second

1944
01:30:43,750 --> 01:30:41,150
thing then I see people saw the people

1945
01:30:47,500 --> 01:30:43,760
leaning in our direction was that she

1946
01:30:49,060 --> 01:30:47,510
was heavily ahead in the polls it became

1947
01:30:51,580 --> 01:30:49,070
that the Republicans had 20-some

1948
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:51,590
candidates it was a three-ring circus

1949
01:30:57,520 --> 01:30:54,530
she had essentially one opponent really

1950
01:30:58,630 --> 01:30:57,530
no Mally didn't last very long and she's

1951
01:31:00,880 --> 01:30:58,640
had in the polls she's gonna be the

1952
01:31:03,250 --> 01:31:00,890
president and they calculated rightly

1953
01:31:04,930 --> 01:31:03,260
that if she won the election she was

1954
01:31:07,150 --> 01:31:04,940
going to disclose the 18 present she was

1955
01:31:10,150 --> 01:31:07,160
going to weigh around either and what

1956
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:10,160
would that mean well it would mean that

1957
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:11,690
the announcement would come out of the

1958
01:31:17,260 --> 01:31:14,930
prayer house and they were going to get

1959
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:17,270
thrown under the bus it's that simple

1960
01:31:22,300 --> 01:31:21,050
the politician would announce it the

1961
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:22,310
people in our party would rally around

1962
01:31:26,140 --> 01:31:24,650
her she would get all kinds of glory and

1963
01:31:27,730 --> 01:31:26,150
then when all the hard questions come

1964
01:31:29,260 --> 01:31:27,740
she just say hey look what could we do

1965
01:31:31,060 --> 01:31:29,270
the Pentagon wouldn't let us have it

1966
01:31:32,950 --> 01:31:31,070
they stonewalled us they've lied about

1967
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:32,960
it for decades they're out of control

1968
01:31:37,660 --> 01:31:36,050
yadda yadda yadda and and 8ohm under the

1969
01:31:39,180 --> 01:31:37,670
bus and then they didn't want that

1970
01:31:41,410 --> 01:31:39,190
they're not happy about that at all

1971
01:31:43,450 --> 01:31:41,420
because they see themselves as the

1972
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:43,460
protectors of the nation good guys white

1973
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:46,730
hats doing what had to be done and they

1974
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:48,290
classified the hell out of this and they

1975
01:31:52,870 --> 01:31:50,330
felt they had pretty good reason and so

1976
01:31:54,970 --> 01:31:52,880
what do you do in that situation these

1977
01:31:56,890 --> 01:31:54,980
are key serve people that have creat

1978
01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:56,900
pride and what they do and they're not

1979
01:31:59,380 --> 01:31:57,890
doing for the money you don't have

1980
01:32:02,770 --> 01:31:59,390
multimillionaires running around the

1981
01:32:04,450 --> 01:32:02,780
Pentagon so they made a decision a group

1982
01:32:07,330 --> 01:32:04,460
of them made a decision to try to get

1983
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:07,340
out ahead of the issue a whole decision

1984
01:32:12,550 --> 01:32:08,930
which I still don't know how they pulled

1985
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:12,560
it off and let me ask you this really

1986
01:32:18,700 --> 01:32:15,530
quick announcement with that

1987
01:32:21,460 --> 01:32:18,710
announcement have been

1988
01:32:26,260 --> 01:32:21,470
one we are not alone in the universe

1989
01:32:29,500 --> 01:32:26,270
or would it have been - we have made

1990
01:32:32,530 --> 01:32:29,510
contact and we have the technology and

1991
01:32:35,110 --> 01:32:32,540
and Roswell was real I mean that's two

1992
01:32:37,090 --> 01:32:35,120
different announcements which way would

1993
01:32:39,610 --> 01:32:37,100
they are dealing with it there's a third

1994
01:32:40,450 --> 01:32:39,620
you mean there's a third the basic

1995
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:40,460
announcement is there's

1996
01:32:46,830 --> 01:32:44,090
extraterrestrials here contact no

1997
01:32:49,090 --> 01:32:46,840
contact that's post disclosure there's

1998
01:32:51,910 --> 01:32:49,100
extraterrestrials here we are not alone

1999
01:32:54,490 --> 01:32:51,920
in the universe could mean we've gotten

2000
01:32:56,350 --> 01:32:54,500
a signal from outer space or right we

2001
01:32:58,180 --> 01:32:56,360
found a planet that has like whatever

2002
01:32:58,720 --> 01:32:58,190
don't forget that extraterrestrial

2003
01:33:01,090 --> 01:32:58,730
that's it

2004
01:33:04,780 --> 01:33:01,100
that is disclosure that is all they have

2005
01:33:07,300 --> 01:33:04,790
to announce essentially to trigger the

2006
01:33:09,570 --> 01:33:07,310
post disclosure world right and then of

2007
01:33:12,730 --> 01:33:09,580
course all kinds of things are possible

2008
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:12,740
it's not a difficult thing to do but you

2009
01:33:16,660 --> 01:33:14,810
need the Pentagon you need them there

2010
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:16,670
with your intelligence complex in

2011
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:18,530
agreement with you if you want it to go

2012
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:22,010
well and of course with all the coverage

2013
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:23,210
that had taken place through her

2014
01:33:27,580 --> 01:33:25,250
campaign which was one of the best what

2015
01:33:28,900 --> 01:33:27,590
one of the reasons why I did it was even

2016
01:33:30,460 --> 01:33:28,910
if it didn't succeed in generating

2017
01:33:30,970 --> 01:33:30,470
disclosure during the campaign under

2018
01:33:33,190 --> 01:33:30,980
Obama

2019
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:33,200
it would create so much interest that

2020
01:33:36,550 --> 01:33:34,730
once the campaign was over and she's won

2021
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:36,560
the presidency their scores the score as

2022
01:33:41,140 --> 01:33:39,170
a reporter's gonna stand on her with

2023
01:33:42,610 --> 01:33:41,150
questions about all of the stuff that

2024
01:33:45,190 --> 01:33:42,620
had been said during that campaign and

2025
01:33:47,290 --> 01:33:45,200
all the media coverage now all she had

2026
01:33:49,030 --> 01:33:47,300
to do was fend them off for 70 days

2027
01:33:50,980 --> 01:33:49,040
roughly while the transition is underway

2028
01:33:53,230 --> 01:33:50,990
and then when she's in the White House

2029
01:33:55,510 --> 01:33:53,240
say what do you want to know yeah I'm

2030
01:33:58,000 --> 01:33:55,520
working on it right now and and and she

2031
01:33:59,530 --> 01:33:58,010
wouldn't wait it around because there's

2032
01:34:01,660 --> 01:33:59,540
always a potential with another head of

2033
01:34:03,790 --> 01:34:01,670
state might do it such as Vladimir Putin

2034
01:34:05,050 --> 01:34:03,800
mm-hmm so she wanted that legacy she

2035
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:05,060
don't want to go become the president

2036
01:34:08,770 --> 01:34:06,770
and Vladimir Putin announces that she

2037
01:34:12,250 --> 01:34:08,780
has to say oh yeah I meant to tell you

2038
01:34:14,470 --> 01:34:12,260
ah so they knew this and so what

2039
01:34:16,540 --> 01:34:14,480
happened is amazing thing is that

2040
01:34:18,250 --> 01:34:16,550
they're thinking along these lines but

2041
01:34:20,740 --> 01:34:18,260
so it's another fellow by the name of

2042
01:34:22,540 --> 01:34:20,750
Tom DeLonge and because he's a very

2043
01:34:24,550 --> 01:34:22,550
wealthy rock star made sold a lot of

2044
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:24,560
Records very interested in the issues

2045
01:34:29,440 --> 01:34:26,090
read scores of books and he's been

2046
01:34:31,060 --> 01:34:29,450
poking at him for some time he could fly

2047
01:34:31,629 --> 01:34:31,070
anywhere the country just some meeting

2048
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:31,639
some

2049
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:35,210
high-ranking people but the public can

2050
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:37,610
attend party whatever he could go there

2051
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:40,610
he tried a buttonhole and what he may or

2052
01:34:45,609 --> 01:34:43,130
may not have known it but he wanted to

2053
01:34:49,090 --> 01:34:45,619
do what they wanted to do and when he

2054
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:49,100
pitched them it connected whether he was

2055
01:34:54,310 --> 01:34:51,050
shocked I don't know and the pitch was

2056
01:34:55,540 --> 01:34:54,320
you guys are the good guys you need we

2057
01:34:59,560 --> 01:34:55,550
need to start getting information out to

2058
01:35:01,209 --> 01:34:59,570
the public that that'll be good for the

2059
01:35:03,879 --> 01:35:01,219
country it'll be good for you you'll get

2060
01:35:05,740 --> 01:35:03,889
ahead of the issue and you can be shown

2061
01:35:07,390 --> 01:35:05,750
that you're the good guys and he showed

2062
01:35:09,370 --> 01:35:07,400
a lot of respect to them he showed he

2063
01:35:12,700 --> 01:35:09,380
was responsible he wasn't gonna go crazy

2064
01:35:14,740 --> 01:35:12,710
about it and and they're thinking we

2065
01:35:16,090 --> 01:35:14,750
want to go ahead of this issue which

2066
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:16,100
means we've got to do something outside

2067
01:35:19,540 --> 01:35:17,690
the Pentagon they can't do it from

2068
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:19,550
within the Pentagon it's going to have

2069
01:35:23,379 --> 01:35:21,650
to be outside they're gonna have to be

2070
01:35:25,540 --> 01:35:23,389
out of government but there were plenty

2071
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:25,550
of heavy-duty career people there that

2072
01:35:30,250 --> 01:35:28,250
were retired or about to retire but if

2073
01:35:33,100 --> 01:35:30,260
we go out there and one of us is run is

2074
01:35:34,990 --> 01:35:33,110
the head of the program there's going to

2075
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:35,000
be a lot of disgust it's going to be

2076
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:37,810
who's setting the program Oh CIA guy ah

2077
01:35:42,340 --> 01:35:40,850
so what if we had a spokesperson was the

2078
01:35:46,390 --> 01:35:42,350
head of the program the CEO of the

2079
01:35:48,820 --> 01:35:46,400
project who was a 42 going on 32 rock

2080
01:35:51,189 --> 01:35:48,830
guy with a huge following and a huge

2081
01:35:52,660 --> 01:35:51,199
Twitter accountant whatever who relates

2082
01:35:53,740 --> 01:35:52,670
to people and he has never worked in

2083
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:53,750
governments never had classified

2084
01:35:57,910 --> 01:35:56,090
clearance this this is the kind of

2085
01:36:01,419 --> 01:35:57,920
person you want to front that and they

2086
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:01,429
put this thing together throughout 2015

2087
01:36:07,350 --> 01:36:03,650
that was the second and that's a

2088
01:36:09,939 --> 01:36:07,360
political initiative and then the long

2089
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:09,949
hints about it he basically comes out

2090
01:36:13,689 --> 01:36:11,330
and says what's going to happen he

2091
01:36:15,669 --> 01:36:13,699
doesn't get to say exactly what in March

2092
01:36:17,740 --> 01:36:15,679
of 2016 to George Noory

2093
01:36:19,270 --> 01:36:17,750
he says it's going to be a books books

2094
01:36:20,859 --> 01:36:19,280
coming and it's gonna be material coming

2095
01:36:22,209 --> 01:36:20,869
and I've got an advisory team and I'm

2096
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:22,219
talking to high-level people and

2097
01:36:26,020 --> 01:36:24,050
Pentagon the CIA and all of this and I'm

2098
01:36:27,609 --> 01:36:26,030
going I don't know it's hard for me to

2099
01:36:29,470 --> 01:36:27,619
believe that until a month later the

2100
01:36:31,270 --> 01:36:29,480
first book secret machines was published

2101
01:36:35,140 --> 01:36:31,280
and I realized I guess this thing is

2102
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:35,150
real and I believe the plan was okay he

2103
01:36:40,959 --> 01:36:37,730
sort of announced it on the show but the

2104
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:40,969
formal announcement in other words the

2105
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:42,650
announcement of the to the stars Academy

2106
01:36:45,250 --> 01:36:44,090
the project itself and the people

2107
01:36:47,229 --> 01:36:45,260
involved in it

2108
01:36:49,990 --> 01:36:47,239
was probably slated to happen right

2109
01:36:52,859 --> 01:36:50,000
after the election sometime between

2110
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:52,869
November early November and mid January

2111
01:36:59,500 --> 01:36:56,449
or at minimum latest right after the

2112
01:37:01,660 --> 01:36:59,510
inauguration why because if they don't

2113
01:37:03,970 --> 01:37:01,670
get ahead of the issue before Clinton

2114
01:37:06,790 --> 01:37:03,980
makes her move they don't get the PR

2115
01:37:08,589 --> 01:37:06,800
advantage and the timing was just about

2116
01:37:10,870 --> 01:37:08,599
what you would have expected he an EPT

2117
01:37:13,569 --> 01:37:10,880
hints at at March they announced it in

2118
01:37:16,089 --> 01:37:13,579
December but what happened of course is

2119
01:37:18,250 --> 01:37:16,099
that she didn't win now I don't even she

2120
01:37:19,810 --> 01:37:18,260
not win but in the run-up to the

2121
01:37:21,549 --> 01:37:19,820
election it's when WikiLeaks released

2122
01:37:24,189 --> 01:37:21,559
all the Podesta emails with with Tom

2123
01:37:25,569 --> 01:37:24,199
DeLonge all over them and and a lot of

2124
01:37:27,339 --> 01:37:25,579
what was going on which is only

2125
01:37:30,339 --> 01:37:27,349
happening in the Democratic side not

2126
01:37:32,319 --> 01:37:30,349
surprisingly it dog didn't approach the

2127
01:37:33,490 --> 01:37:32,329
Republican side because they weren't

2128
01:37:36,250 --> 01:37:33,500
going to win and it bad they weren't

2129
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:36,260
going to disclose so the whole thing was

2130
01:37:40,270 --> 01:37:38,690
out it and names were named and there

2131
01:37:42,009 --> 01:37:40,280
were some photographs and all of this

2132
01:37:43,990 --> 01:37:42,019
and that wasn't supposed to come out it

2133
01:37:45,669 --> 01:37:44,000
created a very substantial problem for

2134
01:37:48,220 --> 01:37:45,679
this project because it's a delicate

2135
01:37:51,220 --> 01:37:48,230
thing you've got but 30 or 40 people

2136
01:37:53,799 --> 01:37:51,230
inside the m.i.c who were planning to

2137
01:37:55,290 --> 01:37:53,809
have a group come out and start engaging

2138
01:37:58,149 --> 01:37:55,300
the public in providing information

2139
01:38:00,520 --> 01:37:58,159
based on authorizations we still don't

2140
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:00,530
fully know about how they're doing it

2141
01:38:04,089 --> 01:38:02,090
and how they get how they're able to do

2142
01:38:05,500 --> 01:38:04,099
it and and and how is it that the

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opposition to this and we know there is

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opposition has not been able to stop it

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01:38:16,770 --> 01:38:14,300
that that that plan was tossed up in the

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01:38:19,540 --> 01:38:16,780
air and now what the hell do they do now

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01:38:22,390 --> 01:38:19,550
they've got a new president and he's

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01:38:24,850 --> 01:38:22,400
unlike any president before what's going

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01:38:26,319 --> 01:38:24,860
to happen so they step back reorganized

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01:38:28,330 --> 01:38:26,329
and then waited a little lot of see

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01:38:31,089 --> 01:38:28,340
what's going to happen and what happened

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01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:31,099
was virtually from the day the of the

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01:38:36,189 --> 01:38:34,250
election each passing week things got

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01:38:39,069 --> 01:38:36,199
more and more bizarre more and more

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01:38:40,810 --> 01:38:39,079
chaotic until we had a third level you

2156
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:40,820
know a category three political

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01:38:46,089 --> 01:38:43,010
hurricane which is now approaching a

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01:38:48,279 --> 01:38:46,099
category five and so the you don't do

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01:38:51,100 --> 01:38:48,289
anything in the middle of that what they

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01:38:53,740 --> 01:38:51,110
had a problem they had one major problem

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01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:53,750
and that is is that they still couldn't

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01:38:58,689 --> 01:38:57,050
discount Vladimir Putin we could have

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01:39:01,089 --> 01:38:58,699
waited yeah yeah

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01:39:03,549 --> 01:39:01,099
I've got to take a break right here as

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you started to take that pause I already

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click the commercials so we got a yeah

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that was a it was good it was a good

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segue

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01:39:13,839 --> 01:39:11,869
well we'll jump rope put another put it

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on the return who Putin on the return

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01:39:18,759 --> 01:39:15,889
our guest tonight Steve Ellis I return

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01:39:20,109 --> 01:39:18,769
we're talking about disclosure its fade

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01:39:21,489 --> 01:39:20,119
to black I'm your signature it's more

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Steve after this short break

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[Music]

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way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

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you're listening to faint and black

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:26,130
Network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

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listening to Jimmy Church this is a

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revolution the revolution will not be

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televised the revolution is on radio

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[Music]

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01:43:23,159 --> 01:43:20,489
welcome back fade to black I'm use to be

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01:43:24,839 --> 01:43:23,169
Church we're talking disclosure tonight

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01:43:27,419 --> 01:43:24,849
we have Steve Bassett with this

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01:43:32,609 --> 01:43:27,429
executive director of the paradigm

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01:43:37,679 --> 01:43:32,619
research group and Steve I wanted to I

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01:43:40,459 --> 01:43:37,689
wanna before we are you with us oh yes

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01:43:44,129 --> 01:43:40,469
okay I'm just got an echo there okay

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the I want to go back to your comment

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01:43:49,409 --> 01:43:45,789
that you made right before the break

2252
01:43:52,939 --> 01:43:49,419
about Hillary not getting elected and

2253
01:43:58,830 --> 01:43:52,949
I've got a weird echo going on huh

2254
01:43:59,909 --> 01:43:58,840
are you there oh I lost Steve yeah that

2255
01:44:03,270 --> 01:43:59,919
was a weird echo

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01:44:09,689 --> 01:44:03,280
let's bring Steve back if that was weird

2257
01:44:12,569 --> 01:44:09,699
and we'll do a quick reset but what I

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01:44:18,839 --> 01:44:12,579
wanted to do with Steve as I wait for

2259
01:44:21,540 --> 01:44:18,849
him to come back to us bill and know

2260
01:44:24,149 --> 01:44:21,550
it's gone see see they're listening

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01:44:26,729 --> 01:44:24,159
Steve they're messing with this man

2262
01:44:29,069 --> 01:44:26,739
my thought is is you I think my phone is

2263
01:44:31,949 --> 01:44:29,079
tapped quite often and it really causes

2264
01:44:33,359 --> 01:44:31,959
a number of issues and I used to kind of

2265
01:44:35,609 --> 01:44:33,369
know when that's happening this could be

2266
01:44:37,290 --> 01:44:35,619
another and weary said we're clear

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01:44:40,259 --> 01:44:37,300
they'll have to come back and chase us

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01:44:42,540 --> 01:44:40,269
down I want I wanted to go back before

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01:44:44,429 --> 01:44:42,550
we move forward into Putin you made a

2270
01:44:46,379 --> 01:44:44,439
very interesting comment right before

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01:44:48,899 --> 01:44:46,389
the break about Hillary not getting

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01:44:50,759 --> 01:44:48,909
elected and it kind of dee railing

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01:44:55,949 --> 01:44:50,769
things a little bit I want to fast

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01:44:58,169 --> 01:44:55,959
forward to contact in the desert I had a

2275
01:44:59,939 --> 01:44:58,179
panel on the last night I don't know if

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01:45:03,120 --> 01:44:59,949
you were in attendance if you were there

2277
01:45:06,870 --> 01:45:03,130
great but Peter Levin who was on the

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01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:06,880
panel and he had brought up the three

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01:45:12,390 --> 01:45:09,610
videos that were released and as he

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01:45:13,529 --> 01:45:12,400
brought them up I had you know over a

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01:45:18,020 --> 01:45:13,539
thousand people in that room

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01:45:21,029 --> 01:45:18,030
standing-room-only packed and I heard

2283
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:21,039
murmuring like boos and I was like Wyatt

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01:45:26,100 --> 01:45:23,530
and I turned to the audience and I said

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01:45:29,159 --> 01:45:26,110
well wait a minute you guys are we're

2286
01:45:30,610 --> 01:45:29,169
excited about those videos right Steve

2287
01:45:35,380 --> 01:45:30,620
you could have heard

2288
01:45:39,130 --> 01:45:35,390
a pin drop not whining clap it was dead

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01:45:42,220 --> 01:45:39,140
silence and then they started booing and

2290
01:45:45,850 --> 01:45:42,230
I thought what is going on here and the

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01:45:47,500 --> 01:45:45,860
mood I think has changed inside of the

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01:45:50,860 --> 01:45:47,510
community I can't speak for everything

2293
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:50,870
else but there at that moment it was a

2294
01:45:57,640 --> 01:45:54,650
very difficult silence there and I felt

2295
01:46:01,360 --> 01:45:57,650
I felt for Peter who is a friend of mine

2296
01:46:04,810 --> 01:46:01,370
and it was it was it was a little

2297
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:04,820
embarrassing so do you think that the

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01:46:10,060 --> 01:46:07,370
the momentum that was built back in

2299
01:46:11,740 --> 01:46:10,070
December do you think it's kind of died

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01:46:17,440 --> 01:46:11,750
off a little bit and is there a way to

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01:46:21,370 --> 01:46:17,450
bring it back well first why do you

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01:46:23,770 --> 01:46:21,380
think they were booing I look I'm on

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01:46:26,050 --> 01:46:23,780
stage you can go back and watch that

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01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:26,060
video it caught me by surprise

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01:46:31,210 --> 01:46:29,210
okay it caught me by surprise and then

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01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:31,220
they booed about the New York Times

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01:46:40,480 --> 01:46:34,610
article all right yeah I know the answer

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01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:40,490
to this I can answer it the the fact is

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01:46:47,620 --> 01:46:44,170
the the truth embargo is in it's roughly

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01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:47,630
70 is 70 first year the government's

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01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:49,250
lied and lied in line for decades and

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01:46:54,460 --> 01:46:51,530
decades and of course the military

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01:46:56,350 --> 01:46:54,470
intelligence complex has committed and

2314
01:46:58,900 --> 01:46:56,360
done a lot of nasty things often times

2315
01:47:01,990 --> 01:46:58,910
it under the demands of the political

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01:47:06,910 --> 01:47:02,000
ruling class and there's plenty of

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01:47:08,770 --> 01:47:06,920
people mad at it upset with it now we

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01:47:11,010 --> 01:47:08,780
have a group that's very much connected

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01:47:13,150 --> 01:47:11,020
to the military intelligence complex

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01:47:14,500 --> 01:47:13,160
certainly all the CI people are still

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01:47:16,630 --> 01:47:14,510
connected though they may no longer be

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01:47:20,050 --> 01:47:16,640
on a payroll and they come out with this

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01:47:22,300 --> 01:47:20,060
so not surprisingly there were a lot of

2324
01:47:25,540 --> 01:47:22,310
people that jumped on the internet to

2325
01:47:28,270 --> 01:47:25,550
pick it apart and accusations were made

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01:47:31,180 --> 01:47:28,280
and assertions were made the videos were

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01:47:33,730 --> 01:47:31,190
attacked and and this is this is the

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01:47:36,850 --> 01:47:33,740
internet you've got millions of people

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01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:36,860
on it so if just 1% of them decide to

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01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:39,530
issue a definitive statement of their

2331
01:47:44,210 --> 01:47:41,690
opinion then you've got a whole lot of

2332
01:47:48,470 --> 01:47:44,220
opinions flying around

2333
01:47:51,770 --> 01:47:48,480
a lot of people bought into this meaning

2334
01:47:54,410 --> 01:47:51,780
oh of course I'm familiar with them I've

2335
01:47:56,150 --> 01:47:54,420
read these ready skeptic skeptical

2336
01:47:57,620 --> 01:47:56,160
analysis I've read them the attack

2337
01:48:00,590 --> 01:47:57,630
analyses and so forth

2338
01:48:03,230 --> 01:48:00,600
none of them impressed me they don't

2339
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:03,240
have the substance they did stray from

2340
01:48:08,630 --> 01:48:06,930
common sense and they're misleading but

2341
01:48:11,750 --> 01:48:08,640
there's enough distrust out there that

2342
01:48:14,300 --> 01:48:11,760
people are prepared to to buy into these

2343
01:48:17,270 --> 01:48:14,310
attacks on this initiative and I

2344
01:48:19,070 --> 01:48:17,280
understand that and that and and so they

2345
01:48:20,900 --> 01:48:19,080
didn't they're not a lot of them don't

2346
01:48:23,900 --> 01:48:20,910
want to believe what the to the Stars

2347
01:48:25,790 --> 01:48:23,910
Academy is putting out and of course the

2348
01:48:27,140 --> 01:48:25,800
president is telling that the New York

2349
01:48:28,790 --> 01:48:27,150
Times there's nothing but fake news I

2350
01:48:30,590 --> 01:48:28,800
mean this is again this is what I'm

2351
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:30,600
saying this is an extremely complex

2352
01:48:33,980 --> 01:48:31,530
situation right now

2353
01:48:35,570 --> 01:48:33,990
mm-hmm which is where I kind of come in

2354
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:35,580
because these people don't have the

2355
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:38,810
luxury very few people in that audience

2356
01:48:44,690 --> 01:48:41,730
have the luxury of focusing on this for

2357
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:44,700
21 years so let's just say that I have a

2358
01:48:49,310 --> 01:48:47,730
little broader more deep perspective on

2359
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:49,320
what is happening with this an issue

2360
01:48:52,910 --> 01:48:51,330
that what I call the to the stars

2361
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:52,920
Academy I'm leaving off the arts and

2362
01:48:59,990 --> 01:48:56,610
science they went too far and so they

2363
01:49:02,420 --> 01:49:00,000
were wrong but that you know my job is

2364
01:49:04,250 --> 01:49:02,430
to hopefully provide the insight that

2365
01:49:07,670 --> 01:49:04,260
will allow people to start seeing this

2366
01:49:12,890 --> 01:49:07,680
more clearly now there's no question

2367
01:49:17,060 --> 01:49:12,900
that you know attacks and and assertions

2368
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:17,070
of misleading material as well as even

2369
01:49:21,440 --> 01:49:19,770
false flags whatever or it's going to

2370
01:49:23,180 --> 01:49:21,450
cool the momentum but the thing that's

2371
01:49:25,370 --> 01:49:23,190
mostly cooling the momentum is the

2372
01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:25,380
political chaos is underway which is

2373
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:26,730
consuming the media we have a

2374
01:49:30,410 --> 01:49:28,650
full-fledged media frenzy underway it's

2375
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:30,420
it's already been going for some time

2376
01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:32,250
it's going to continue to build right

2377
01:49:36,290 --> 01:49:34,170
and generally the media can only do one

2378
01:49:38,620 --> 01:49:36,300
friends at a time they can't they're not

2379
01:49:42,230 --> 01:49:38,630
big they don't they can't they're not a

2380
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:42,240
multitasking eating frenzy or feeding

2381
01:49:47,780 --> 01:49:45,810
frenzy operation so until this storm

2382
01:49:49,580 --> 01:49:47,790
settles down everything is kind of

2383
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:49,590
slowed down and the et disclosure

2384
01:49:55,370 --> 01:49:53,090
movement is hardly the only thing so I

2385
01:49:57,260 --> 01:49:55,380
cite so what I'm going to say is yeah

2386
01:49:57,830 --> 01:49:57,270
things have slowed down but I wouldn't

2387
01:50:01,939 --> 01:49:57,840
worry about

2388
01:50:04,339 --> 01:50:01,949
well the what I was impressed with when

2389
01:50:05,810 --> 01:50:04,349
when those announcements happened

2390
01:50:08,990 --> 01:50:05,820
through the New York Times and mass

2391
01:50:12,379 --> 01:50:09,000
media of everywhere on that Saturday on

2392
01:50:15,260 --> 01:50:12,389
December 16th and I have stated publicly

2393
01:50:18,620 --> 01:50:15,270
I nearly crashed my car I was you know

2394
01:50:21,859 --> 01:50:18,630
driving and I heard it on talk radio and

2395
01:50:24,379 --> 01:50:21,869
it and I was so happy and and I know

2396
01:50:28,669 --> 01:50:24,389
that this community was happy it was

2397
01:50:32,020 --> 01:50:28,679
like okay finally you know finally but

2398
01:50:36,919 --> 01:50:32,030
is there a way what would have to be

2399
01:50:39,620 --> 01:50:36,929
next for to the stars for the media to

2400
01:50:42,319 --> 01:50:39,630
it's got to be elevated you know for the

2401
01:50:43,879 --> 01:50:42,329
for the media to take another swing like

2402
01:50:45,890 --> 01:50:43,889
they did and it was great they knocked

2403
01:50:49,459 --> 01:50:45,900
it out of the park but the next one's

2404
01:50:51,830 --> 01:50:49,469
gonna be even bigger so what is it that

2405
01:50:54,830 --> 01:50:51,840
they could do and I'm specifically

2406
01:50:56,930 --> 01:50:54,840
referring to to the stars and if this is

2407
01:50:58,970 --> 01:50:56,940
coming out of the Pentagon then they're

2408
01:51:01,060 --> 01:50:58,980
gonna have to step up their game this

2409
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:01,070
next time around to keep the media

2410
01:51:07,310 --> 01:51:05,489
involved let me tie it together for you

2411
01:51:09,950 --> 01:51:07,320
and this one will pick up where I left

2412
01:51:11,149 --> 01:51:09,960
off before the break and now I'll tie

2413
01:51:14,540 --> 01:51:11,159
this together for you

2414
01:51:16,339 --> 01:51:14,550
as I said Clinton loses the election and

2415
01:51:19,729 --> 01:51:16,349
the entire initiative is thrown up in

2416
01:51:21,740 --> 01:51:19,739
here they they clearly have to step back

2417
01:51:25,399 --> 01:51:21,750
there were I think certain people

2418
01:51:27,290 --> 01:51:25,409
involved it was drew and others had to

2419
01:51:29,660 --> 01:51:27,300
take their place and that took some time

2420
01:51:30,770 --> 01:51:29,670
to work out and they needed to see what

2421
01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:30,780
was going to happen with this new

2422
01:51:36,500 --> 01:51:33,570
president it could settle down very

2423
01:51:38,240 --> 01:51:36,510
quickly and things might actually start

2424
01:51:42,350 --> 01:51:38,250
to become somewhat normal there was a

2425
01:51:44,950 --> 01:51:42,360
new some new initiatives in place but

2426
01:51:48,049 --> 01:51:44,960
what happened of course is the hurricane

2427
01:51:50,029 --> 01:51:48,059
began a category 1 it's slowly building

2428
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:50,039
toward a category 5 political hurricane

2429
01:51:53,839 --> 01:51:52,050
and if you've ever been in a hurricane

2430
01:51:56,959 --> 01:51:53,849
it's probably not a good time to do your

2431
01:52:00,560 --> 01:51:56,969
homework play cards or just critical

2432
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:00,570
thinking so we are we are in an

2433
01:52:05,379 --> 01:52:03,690
extremely chaotic situation so they had

2434
01:52:08,029 --> 01:52:05,389
that there so they're waiting that out

2435
01:52:11,150 --> 01:52:08,039
they're reorganizing and the months are

2436
01:52:11,990 --> 01:52:11,160
going by they

2437
01:52:13,940 --> 01:52:12,000
in other words they had to pull back

2438
01:52:15,860 --> 01:52:13,950
without question to reorganize okay fine

2439
01:52:17,480 --> 01:52:15,870
so the question I had in my mind was

2440
01:52:19,310 --> 01:52:17,490
will that when were they launched when

2441
01:52:21,170 --> 01:52:19,320
how long were they delay the actual

2442
01:52:23,030 --> 01:52:21,180
launch which was planned

2443
01:52:26,180 --> 01:52:23,040
I again right after the election in my

2444
01:52:28,370 --> 01:52:26,190
view who knows they might have waited to

2445
01:52:32,330 --> 01:52:28,380
a way out to the midterms they might

2446
01:52:34,730 --> 01:52:32,340
have put it off indefinitely so what are

2447
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:34,740
they gonna do well what they did was

2448
01:52:41,060 --> 01:52:38,730
they announced on October the 11th with

2449
01:52:43,430 --> 01:52:41,070
a facebook video presentation and the

2450
01:52:47,480 --> 01:52:43,440
launch of the website and they laid it

2451
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:47,490
all out and that was a big deal it was

2452
01:52:50,530 --> 01:52:48,810
low-key though okay they could have done

2453
01:52:53,390 --> 01:52:50,540
a much bigger splash but they didn't

2454
01:52:54,440 --> 01:52:53,400
again they're in other words they had

2455
01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:54,450
already made a decision we're going to

2456
01:52:58,790 --> 01:52:56,570
launch but we're gonna slow walk this

2457
01:53:01,220 --> 01:52:58,800
because there's a hurricane going on

2458
01:53:03,500 --> 01:53:01,230
over our heads and that hurricane is

2459
01:53:05,390 --> 01:53:03,510
completely consuming the media and so

2460
01:53:06,740 --> 01:53:05,400
whatever we put out there is going to

2461
01:53:10,430 --> 01:53:06,750
get some attention but it's not going to

2462
01:53:14,210 --> 01:53:10,440
stick fair enough so they launched on

2463
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:14,220
October 11 question is why and the only

2464
01:53:21,290 --> 01:53:17,850
the best answer I have and I'll add here

2465
01:53:24,220 --> 01:53:21,300
that if my assessment of this which is

2466
01:53:27,290 --> 01:53:24,230
essentially a professional guesstimate

2467
01:53:29,450 --> 01:53:27,300
it could be wrong and and if in fact it

2468
01:53:30,890 --> 01:53:29,460
wasn't like this any any one of the

2469
01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:30,900
student stars Academy are welcome to get

2470
01:53:34,790 --> 01:53:33,090
in touch with me and say no and Steve it

2471
01:53:37,370 --> 01:53:34,800
wasn't like this here's the way it was

2472
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:37,380
and that would be great and I'm happy to

2473
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:40,890
correct my assessment but right now I'm

2474
01:53:44,150 --> 01:53:42,810
pretty comfortable with it why did they

2475
01:53:46,010 --> 01:53:44,160
go ahead and launch even though the

2476
01:53:51,650 --> 01:53:46,020
hurricane was up to a category three by

2477
01:53:54,050 --> 01:53:51,660
last October pootin the wild-card if the

2478
01:53:57,680 --> 01:53:54,060
if the if the if they disclose your

2479
01:54:00,440 --> 01:53:57,690
announcement coming out of Clinton early

2480
01:54:01,730 --> 01:54:00,450
in her administration without them being

2481
01:54:04,150 --> 01:54:01,740
out in front of the issue was going to

2482
01:54:07,550 --> 01:54:04,160
be a serious PR problem for them

2483
01:54:08,870 --> 01:54:07,560
Vladimir Putin announcing the et

2484
01:54:11,570 --> 01:54:08,880
presence which he could do any time he

2485
01:54:13,550 --> 01:54:11,580
wants before they got out ahead of the

2486
01:54:16,730 --> 01:54:13,560
issue would be a catastrophe for them

2487
01:54:20,540 --> 01:54:16,740
and as it happens I've been pushing

2488
01:54:23,870 --> 01:54:20,550
Putin as a as a cheating thing but

2489
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:23,880
mostly Putin oblate as a didn't perhaps

2490
01:54:26,790 --> 01:54:24,850
the the the

2491
01:54:28,980 --> 01:54:26,800
the number one candidate for the

2492
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:28,990
disclosure presidency for some time

2493
01:54:33,180 --> 01:54:30,850
doing it primarily to put pressure on a

2494
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:33,190
Pentagon in the White House it's not

2495
01:54:39,150 --> 01:54:36,370
that I'm lobbying for Putin to be the

2496
01:54:40,470 --> 01:54:39,160
disclosure president I'm saying guys you

2497
01:54:42,300 --> 01:54:40,480
understand then unless he's on your

2498
01:54:44,010 --> 01:54:42,310
payroll he can do it anytime he wants in

2499
01:54:46,530 --> 01:54:44,020
which case you've got a real problem

2500
01:54:48,150 --> 01:54:46,540
ah this is my way of putting pressure on

2501
01:54:49,650 --> 01:54:48,160
that's what you do that's what activists

2502
01:54:52,410 --> 01:54:49,660
do you find ways to put pressure on the

2503
01:54:55,320 --> 01:54:52,420
government to get them to do what they

2504
01:54:57,240 --> 01:54:55,330
don't want to do and it got more

2505
01:54:58,680 --> 01:54:57,250
interesting because when I I left the

2506
01:55:00,090 --> 01:54:58,690
country after the election because I was

2507
01:55:03,860 --> 01:55:00,100
little bummed out I went to London and

2508
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:03,870
right away I was invited by a national

2509
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:07,210
Russian Network to come and to do an

2510
01:55:10,170 --> 01:55:08,530
interview with them in London and I said

2511
01:55:12,810 --> 01:55:10,180
no I'll do it in Moscow they supply you

2512
01:55:15,150 --> 01:55:12,820
I pay your own way I did and I gave the

2513
01:55:18,810 --> 01:55:15,160
interview to a Russian television

2514
01:55:21,060 --> 01:55:18,820
network crew on May the 3rd and I know

2515
01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:21,070
and had a plan the interview was heavily

2516
01:55:25,470 --> 01:55:24,130
Paulet political exopolitical including

2517
01:55:27,390 --> 01:55:25,480
talking about Putin as the Disclosure

2518
01:55:29,970 --> 01:55:27,400
president which no one had ever done in

2519
01:55:32,130 --> 01:55:29,980
Russian media before and no one had ever

2520
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:32,140
certainly done it on Russian soil I also

2521
01:55:36,630 --> 01:55:34,450
arranged for six meetings I have

2522
01:55:39,150 --> 01:55:36,640
supporter who had a lot of contacts in

2523
01:55:40,740 --> 01:55:39,160
Moscow he's out of Italy and he arranged

2524
01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:40,750
six meetings for me with about three to

2525
01:55:48,270 --> 01:55:42,370
four people each meeting so the total of

2526
01:55:50,130 --> 01:55:48,280
about maybe 20 20 20 people and most of

2527
01:55:54,230 --> 01:55:50,140
these people were former Russian and

2528
01:55:56,580 --> 01:55:54,240
Soviet either military or political z'

2529
01:55:57,900 --> 01:55:56,590
who had been engaging the issue while

2530
01:55:59,460 --> 01:55:57,910
they were in government and now they're

2531
01:56:02,070 --> 01:55:59,470
out of government and still engaging the

2532
01:56:03,660 --> 01:56:02,080
issue we couldn't really have much of an

2533
01:56:04,950 --> 01:56:03,670
in-depth conversation because I've got

2534
01:56:07,020 --> 01:56:04,960
three Russians in front of me and I've

2535
01:56:10,590 --> 01:56:07,030
got a modest better-than-average

2536
01:56:11,790 --> 01:56:10,600
interpreter or we deeper the discussions

2537
01:56:13,500 --> 01:56:11,800
going to be it was more like how you

2538
01:56:15,060 --> 01:56:13,510
doing how's everything going I'm into

2539
01:56:17,940 --> 01:56:15,070
this what are you into bla bla that's it

2540
01:56:19,470 --> 01:56:17,950
that's but that the reason I dip those

2541
01:56:22,230 --> 01:56:19,480
meetings is I know that if I took those

2542
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:22,240
meetings there was no way that Vladimir

2543
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:23,530
Putin in the Kremlin wasn't going to

2544
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:25,330
know I was in town no they knew and

2545
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:27,250
ultimately figure figure out why I know

2546
01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:29,530
the CIA would have known her and so I'm

2547
01:56:32,990 --> 01:56:31,210
thinking okay what's going to happen it

2548
01:56:36,450 --> 01:56:33,000
was a test it was my way of testing

2549
01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:36,460
prudent on this because if Putin didn't

2550
01:56:38,820 --> 01:56:38,650
want to be connected to the idea of him

2551
01:56:41,010 --> 01:56:38,830
be

2552
01:56:42,420 --> 01:56:41,020
disclosure president that interview was

2553
01:56:44,370 --> 01:56:42,430
never going to see the light of day

2554
01:56:45,900 --> 01:56:44,380
none of it would be used in any of the

2555
01:56:48,330 --> 01:56:45,910
network's programming and I would never

2556
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:48,340
get the english-language version of it

2557
01:56:52,260 --> 01:56:50,410
which wasn't the studio quality but it

2558
01:56:54,690 --> 01:56:52,270
was it was a second version done by the

2559
01:56:57,480 --> 01:56:54,700
journalist I might even be able get out

2560
01:56:58,800 --> 01:56:57,490
of country but what happened was I did

2561
01:57:01,020 --> 01:56:58,810
get out of the country five months later

2562
01:57:03,300 --> 01:57:01,030
they did use a little bit of the

2563
01:57:07,460 --> 01:57:03,310
interview in one of their shows and then

2564
01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:07,470
Pravda are you ran two articles about my

2565
01:57:13,110 --> 01:57:09,970
calling for Putin to be the disclosure

2566
01:57:15,330 --> 01:57:13,120
president which I'm not going to do if

2567
01:57:16,980 --> 01:57:15,340
Putin doesn't want it and then I got the

2568
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:16,990
english-language version I put that out

2569
01:57:20,820 --> 01:57:18,370
I eventually had a press release with

2570
01:57:22,770 --> 01:57:20,830
the key key components and the American

2571
01:57:26,070 --> 01:57:22,780
press completely ignored it English

2572
01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:26,080
English press set my website and so what

2573
01:57:30,870 --> 01:57:28,930
I was able to do was confirm that

2574
01:57:33,630 --> 01:57:30,880
obviously Putin was not uncomfortable

2575
01:57:35,010 --> 01:57:33,640
with an American activist connecting him

2576
01:57:37,620 --> 01:57:35,020
to the possibility of being a disclosure

2577
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:37,630
president not just in American media but

2578
01:57:43,830 --> 01:57:40,210
in Russian media in Moscow well guess

2579
01:57:47,610 --> 01:57:43,840
what the CIA and the m.i.c people

2580
01:57:49,980 --> 01:57:47,620
obviously we're watching this right from

2581
01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:49,990
the beginning May June July August

2582
01:57:56,340 --> 01:57:54,250
September 2017 and they're thinking you

2583
01:57:57,810 --> 01:57:56,350
know this guy this bassett guy he's

2584
01:58:00,990 --> 01:57:57,820
crazy he's an obsessive-compulsive

2585
01:58:04,100 --> 01:58:01,000
clearly he won't give up he's just not

2586
01:58:07,380 --> 01:58:04,110
going to stop my god he might just

2587
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:07,390
incite Putin to disclose this would be a

2588
01:58:11,580 --> 01:58:09,730
catastrophe and so I believe they chose

2589
01:58:14,550 --> 01:58:11,590
to go ahead and launch on October the

2590
01:58:17,820 --> 01:58:14,560
11th into the hurricane because Putin

2591
01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:17,830
was not they don't control him I mean

2592
01:58:22,620 --> 01:58:20,410
every indication is Putin is doing what

2593
01:58:24,690 --> 01:58:22,630
he wants to disrupt American democracy

2594
01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:24,700
American international relations he's

2595
01:58:27,690 --> 01:58:26,170
eating our lunch he's playing

2596
01:58:29,700 --> 01:58:27,700
three-dimensional chess and we're

2597
01:58:32,070 --> 01:58:29,710
playing crooks and ladders and so

2598
01:58:34,710 --> 01:58:32,080
disclosing the et presence would be

2599
01:58:36,990 --> 01:58:34,720
incredibly disruptive and undermining

2600
01:58:39,930 --> 01:58:37,000
our position and embarrassing the hell

2601
01:58:41,430 --> 01:58:39,940
out on military intelligence complex and

2602
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:41,440
the to the Stars Academy people don't

2603
01:58:46,650 --> 01:58:43,290
agree I'd love to hear their opinion I

2604
01:58:47,810 --> 01:58:46,660
think that's why they launched and so

2605
01:58:52,340 --> 01:58:47,820
where are we now

2606
01:58:54,470 --> 01:58:52,350
okay they launched it they made there

2607
01:58:56,870 --> 01:58:54,480
major move when they held selective

2608
01:58:59,360 --> 01:58:56,880
interviews with the New York Times to

2609
01:59:01,880 --> 01:58:59,370
give them a lot of information which The

2610
01:59:03,530 --> 01:59:01,890
Times vetted and decided it was

2611
01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:03,540
legitimate and wrote the stories I mean

2612
01:59:07,370 --> 01:59:05,250
they're not in cahoots with the New York

2613
01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:07,380
Times but obviously they wanted those

2614
01:59:10,790 --> 01:59:08,490
stories in The Times

2615
01:59:13,940 --> 01:59:10,800
they they handed over three gun camera

2616
01:59:15,890 --> 01:59:13,950
footages of three separate events first

2617
01:59:18,770 --> 01:59:15,900
time that's ever happened from any

2618
01:59:20,360 --> 01:59:18,780
nation ever there was a little gun

2619
01:59:22,220 --> 01:59:20,370
camera footage release I think into a

2620
01:59:24,260 --> 01:59:22,230
documentary by somebody a general della

2621
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:24,270
are doing it's nobody even knows where

2622
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:26,010
it is now it's hard to find but in terms

2623
01:59:29,810 --> 01:59:27,450
of official release it's never happened

2624
01:59:32,900 --> 01:59:29,820
because releasing gun camera footage of

2625
01:59:34,970 --> 01:59:32,910
I ApS being intercepted by high-end

2626
01:59:37,130 --> 01:59:34,980
military jets you put out 20 of those in

2627
01:59:38,270 --> 01:59:37,140
the truth embargo blow sky-high and so

2628
01:59:39,860 --> 01:59:38,280
that stuff was not available you

2629
01:59:41,570 --> 01:59:39,870
couldn't get it under foi a you couldn't

2630
01:59:43,310 --> 01:59:41,580
get it period and if anybody had tried

2631
01:59:47,630 --> 01:59:43,320
to leak it out they had gone to prison

2632
01:59:50,270 --> 01:59:47,640
well the appropriate people inside the

2633
01:59:52,130 --> 01:59:50,280
Department of Defense would despite what

2634
01:59:55,190 --> 01:59:52,140
their public relations person says in

2635
01:59:57,800 --> 01:59:55,200
the front office Declassified those

2636
01:59:59,390 --> 01:59:57,810
films they redacted a lot of it they

2637
02:00:00,680 --> 01:59:59,400
gave it you know short amounts there's

2638
02:00:03,410 --> 02:00:00,690
much more to him than just what we saw

2639
02:00:05,030 --> 02:00:03,420
and gave them to Lewis Elizondo to

2640
02:00:07,610 --> 02:00:05,040
present to the New York Times and those

2641
02:00:09,230 --> 02:00:07,620
articles and were written a huge number

2642
02:00:11,780 --> 02:00:09,240
of articles I've got a couple hundred

2643
02:00:13,460 --> 02:00:11,790
articles related to that on my mind on

2644
02:00:15,590 --> 02:00:13,470
my archive my print archive which has

2645
02:00:17,540 --> 02:00:15,600
nearly ten over ten thousand articles

2646
02:00:19,070 --> 02:00:17,550
linked and you can go read them all if

2647
02:00:22,010 --> 02:00:19,080
you want to it paradigm research groups

2648
02:00:23,870 --> 02:00:22,020
org so they did that but then they

2649
02:00:25,580 --> 02:00:23,880
haven't done anything since so you got

2650
02:00:28,010 --> 02:00:25,590
January February March April May June

2651
02:00:28,790 --> 02:00:28,020
there's that's because they're slow

2652
02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:28,800
walking it

2653
02:00:34,550 --> 02:00:31,890
it's not even momentum obviously is

2654
02:00:36,620 --> 02:00:34,560
being reduced by that but the reason

2655
02:00:38,420 --> 02:00:36,630
they're slow walking it is because the

2656
02:00:41,810 --> 02:00:38,430
political hurricane is only getting

2657
02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:41,820
worse and worse there are major reports

2658
02:00:46,820 --> 02:00:44,370
that are gonna be dropped by the federal

2659
02:00:49,100 --> 02:00:46,830
prosecutor Mahler there's going to be

2660
02:00:51,230 --> 02:00:49,110
more indictments more chaos God knows

2661
02:00:53,510 --> 02:00:51,240
what's going to happen and they realize

2662
02:00:55,310 --> 02:00:53,520
that if they if they come out with

2663
02:00:57,980 --> 02:00:55,320
another big thing it's just going to be

2664
02:00:59,750 --> 02:00:57,990
blown away by the hurricane yeah it'll

2665
02:01:02,540 --> 02:00:59,760
get some attention but the media can't

2666
02:01:04,550 --> 02:01:02,550
stay with it the New York Times in any

2667
02:01:06,229 --> 02:01:04,560
normal times would have been all over

2668
02:01:08,330 --> 02:01:06,239
that issue once they

2669
02:01:09,500 --> 02:01:08,340
those first articles they should have

2670
02:01:11,779 --> 02:01:09,510
had four reporters

2671
02:01:14,359 --> 02:01:11,789
sitting right in front of Robert Bigelow

2672
02:01:16,939 --> 02:01:14,369
right away saying Bob we'd like to see

2673
02:01:19,009 --> 02:01:16,949
those metamaterials dude and we'd like

2674
02:01:20,060 --> 02:01:19,019
to know a lot more and and and how is it

2675
02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:20,070
that you actually said there's

2676
02:01:24,290 --> 02:01:21,570
extraterrestrials here on 60 minutes

2677
02:01:26,120 --> 02:01:24,300
they didn't do that and obviously that

2678
02:01:27,500 --> 02:01:26,130
the Congress can't do a damn thing it's

2679
02:01:30,979 --> 02:01:27,510
mostly involved in a kind of

2680
02:01:32,509 --> 02:01:30,989
self-destructive process here where

2681
02:01:34,910 --> 02:01:32,519
everybody's going to pretty much explode

2682
02:01:36,259 --> 02:01:34,920
they should have held hearings they

2683
02:01:37,729 --> 02:01:36,269
should have hauled Bigelow in front of a

2684
02:01:39,620 --> 02:01:37,739
committee within days they didn't do it

2685
02:01:43,250 --> 02:01:39,630
that's because we're in extraordinary

2686
02:01:46,700 --> 02:01:43,260
times so they're slow walking it in

2687
02:01:48,470 --> 02:01:46,710
order to hopefully that things will

2688
02:01:50,779 --> 02:01:48,480
resolve themselves in other words

2689
02:01:54,049 --> 02:01:50,789
they're hoping that the political chaos

2690
02:01:56,149 --> 02:01:54,059
will resolve and the moment that happens

2691
02:02:00,049 --> 02:01:56,159
you can expect them to pick up speed

2692
02:02:02,810 --> 02:02:00,059
very quickly but will it resolve when it

2693
02:02:04,700 --> 02:02:02,820
resolved how much I don't know so I'm

2694
02:02:07,069 --> 02:02:04,710
still quite optimistic and they're still

2695
02:02:09,620 --> 02:02:07,079
around I'm watching to see if the

2696
02:02:11,810 --> 02:02:09,630
Pentagon suddenly reaches out like a you

2697
02:02:13,609 --> 02:02:11,820
know one of those one filled animals and

2698
02:02:15,799 --> 02:02:13,619
just grabs them and pulls them back in

2699
02:02:17,479 --> 02:02:15,809
like they did with chase Brandon who

2700
02:02:19,009 --> 02:02:17,489
came out with that book about Roswell is

2701
02:02:21,140 --> 02:02:19,019
an extraordinary statements and then

2702
02:02:23,359 --> 02:02:21,150
disappeared right later found us because

2703
02:02:25,660 --> 02:02:23,369
that CIA basically said chase you got

2704
02:02:28,629 --> 02:02:25,670
out ahead of your skis dude that's it

2705
02:02:30,589 --> 02:02:28,639
cut it out right now that was years ago

2706
02:02:31,580 --> 02:02:30,599
what's what happened here but I don't

2707
02:02:33,830 --> 02:02:31,590
think so there's too many people

2708
02:02:36,500 --> 02:02:33,840
involved what yeah I want to go back to

2709
02:02:42,200 --> 02:02:36,510
the Bigelow aspect of this too as well a

2710
02:02:45,200 --> 02:02:42,210
much your opinion I I said this if I was

2711
02:02:50,089 --> 02:02:45,210
Bigelow and hear me out on the Steve if

2712
02:02:53,600 --> 02:02:50,099
I was Bigelow I would go ahead and go

2713
02:02:55,700 --> 02:02:53,610
the martyr route I would pull whatever

2714
02:02:59,060 --> 02:02:55,710
it is that you have have a press

2715
02:03:01,580 --> 02:02:59,070
conference present this meta material

2716
02:03:03,859 --> 02:03:01,590
whatever it is whatever label they want

2717
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:03,869
to put on a state where it came from

2718
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:08,010
crashed debride trace evidence wherever

2719
02:03:11,750 --> 02:03:09,570
it came from came from the penny of it

2720
02:03:14,299 --> 02:03:11,760
came from civility whatever it is have a

2721
02:03:19,040 --> 02:03:14,309
press conference and fall on your own

2722
02:03:20,160 --> 02:03:19,050
sword because in a thousand years there

2723
02:03:23,910 --> 02:03:20,170
will be a religion

2724
02:03:25,830 --> 02:03:23,920
called bigelow right now you would have

2725
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:25,840
my Jimmy you've got you've got an

2726
02:03:30,060 --> 02:03:28,090
imagination you know yeah well you

2727
02:03:32,520 --> 02:03:30,070
understand where I'm going with it you

2728
02:03:34,229 --> 02:03:32,530
know yeah but yeah but look Bigelow

2729
02:03:34,979 --> 02:03:34,239
doesn't have to do that and he's not

2730
02:03:37,050 --> 02:03:34,989
gonna do that

2731
02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:37,060
I would he wouldn't you'd ring you got a

2732
02:03:40,650 --> 02:03:39,010
bunch of no no I wouldn't be bringing

2733
02:03:42,060 --> 02:03:40,660
out some metamaterials it's not gonna

2734
02:03:43,320 --> 02:03:42,070
wrap the thing up it's not going to

2735
02:03:45,810 --> 02:03:43,330
necessary force disclosure

2736
02:03:48,479 --> 02:03:45,820
you could spend 10 15 years studying

2737
02:03:49,860 --> 02:03:48,489
metamaterials right before you could

2738
02:03:51,180 --> 02:03:49,870
arrive at some fundamental conclusion

2739
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:51,190
well this confirms there's

2740
02:03:54,870 --> 02:03:52,690
extraterrestrials here we already know

2741
02:03:57,209 --> 02:03:54,880
there's extraterrestrials here the issue

2742
02:04:00,360 --> 02:03:57,219
isn't him coming out with something that

2743
02:04:01,770 --> 02:04:00,370
really shows it to be true we've already

2744
02:04:06,180 --> 02:04:01,780
got stuff in the public domain more

2745
02:04:07,650 --> 02:04:06,190
powerful than that the issue is the

2746
02:04:10,650 --> 02:04:07,660
government being and put in a position

2747
02:04:13,350 --> 02:04:10,660
where it has to just come out and say it

2748
02:04:15,090 --> 02:04:13,360
right so in rather studying Bigelow's

2749
02:04:17,310 --> 02:04:15,100
metamaterials for years the president

2750
02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:17,320
can end it in in a half a day or a few

2751
02:04:22,320 --> 02:04:20,410
minutes so and he's got a well he's got

2752
02:04:24,419 --> 02:04:22,330
a contract with NASA he's got an

2753
02:04:25,919 --> 02:04:24,429
important research he's doing he's

2754
02:04:27,660 --> 02:04:25,929
already made a public statement he said

2755
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:27,670
they're here I

2756
02:04:32,100 --> 02:04:30,610
he doesn't need a martyr himself because

2757
02:04:33,330 --> 02:04:32,110
it wouldn't make an he wouldn't probably

2758
02:04:34,950 --> 02:04:33,340
wouldn't make any difference he's the

2759
02:04:36,419 --> 02:04:34,960
wrong guy to martyr himself if

2760
02:04:37,790 --> 02:04:36,429
somebody's going to martyr themselves it

2761
02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:37,800
might be like the Secretary of Defense

2762
02:04:43,470 --> 02:04:40,330
who for whatever reason says screw this

2763
02:04:45,630 --> 02:04:43,480
goes down gets a bunch of files really

2764
02:04:47,939 --> 02:04:45,640
heavy-duty stuff and holds a press

2765
02:04:49,979 --> 02:04:47,949
conference that would back that might

2766
02:04:52,680 --> 02:04:49,989
very much trigger disclosure but don't

2767
02:04:54,660 --> 02:04:52,690
expect that either the military

2768
02:04:57,390 --> 02:04:54,670
intelligence complex is designed to

2769
02:04:58,979 --> 02:04:57,400
protect the national security and doing

2770
02:05:01,110 --> 02:04:58,989
things in a way that are not destructive

2771
02:05:02,430 --> 02:05:01,120
I think is pretty much a mandate for

2772
02:05:03,270 --> 02:05:02,440
them and so what they're doing is

2773
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:03,280
slow-walking

2774
02:05:07,439 --> 02:05:05,530
a process but what's important though

2775
02:05:09,870 --> 02:05:07,449
and what what here's the distinction as

2776
02:05:13,500 --> 02:05:09,880
I've said in all my presentations right

2777
02:05:15,510 --> 02:05:13,510
now I can say comfortably that the quote

2778
02:05:16,890 --> 02:05:15,520
military intelligence complex which

2779
02:05:19,260 --> 02:05:16,900
includes the people that are part of the

2780
02:05:21,390 --> 02:05:19,270
to the stars team and the 30 or so

2781
02:05:23,790 --> 02:05:21,400
people behind them inside still who

2782
02:05:26,520 --> 02:05:23,800
cannot be named are leading the

2783
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:26,530
disclosure advocacy movement and that is

2784
02:05:31,110 --> 02:05:29,530
a sea change over everything that's

2785
02:05:33,730 --> 02:05:31,120
happened in the last 70 years there have

2786
02:05:35,950 --> 02:05:33,740
been a couple of pre-emptive efforts

2787
02:05:39,670 --> 02:05:35,960
always been internal pressure to maybe

2788
02:05:40,690 --> 02:05:39,680
do something and maneger story is one of

2789
02:05:42,610 --> 02:05:40,700
those and there's been a couple of

2790
02:05:44,200 --> 02:05:42,620
others where some people thought maybe

2791
02:05:45,550 --> 02:05:44,210
they could maneuver it out a little bit

2792
02:05:47,560 --> 02:05:45,560
and help the process along but they all

2793
02:05:49,090 --> 02:05:47,570
got pulled back in mmm because it was

2794
02:05:51,370 --> 02:05:49,100
the biggest most classified thing in the

2795
02:05:53,650 --> 02:05:51,380
United States so but this is way past

2796
02:05:56,170 --> 02:05:53,660
that this is far more extensive than

2797
02:06:00,850 --> 02:05:56,180
anything before and it's happening at a

2798
02:06:03,040 --> 02:06:00,860
time again when when Tom DeLonge gives

2799
02:06:04,270 --> 02:06:03,050
this interview to George Knapp and says

2800
02:06:06,730 --> 02:06:04,280
hey I've been meeting with these people

2801
02:06:09,220 --> 02:06:06,740
in the Pentagon the CIA NASA skunk works

2802
02:06:10,720 --> 02:06:09,230
we got a big project coming they're

2803
02:06:12,220 --> 02:06:10,730
gonna start getting information out I'm

2804
02:06:15,220 --> 02:06:12,230
gonna we're gonna do multimedia blah

2805
02:06:17,890 --> 02:06:15,230
blah blah and he and then we learned

2806
02:06:20,290 --> 02:06:17,900
that he is he has already approached the

2807
02:06:22,270 --> 02:06:20,300
the Clinton team particularly Podesta

2808
02:06:25,200 --> 02:06:22,280
for their involvement that is where

2809
02:06:29,470 --> 02:06:25,210
these two political threads connected

2810
02:06:31,690 --> 02:06:29,480
that's where they connected and set the

2811
02:06:32,860 --> 02:06:31,700
stage for essentially a major

2812
02:06:35,860 --> 02:06:32,870
announcement from them and then

2813
02:06:38,260 --> 02:06:35,870
disclosure from Clinton the Democrats

2814
02:06:39,130 --> 02:06:38,270
when Clinton wins the CIA the military

2815
02:06:41,470 --> 02:06:39,140
until it's complex

2816
02:06:42,970 --> 02:06:41,480
gets a gets a lot of good PR that will

2817
02:06:45,400 --> 02:06:42,980
help them in the post disclosure world

2818
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:45,410
the Republicans lose because they lose

2819
02:06:49,750 --> 02:06:46,490
the election and they've never done

2820
02:06:53,380 --> 02:06:49,760
anything on this issue because they're

2821
02:06:55,030 --> 02:06:53,390
much more attuned to the wishes and

2822
02:06:59,950 --> 02:06:55,040
desires of military intelligence complex

2823
02:07:01,390 --> 02:06:59,960
so it didn't happen it blew up but as I

2824
02:07:03,430 --> 02:07:01,400
said the toothpaste was out of the tube

2825
02:07:06,490 --> 02:07:03,440
they couldn't put it back and they've

2826
02:07:09,190 --> 02:07:06,500
got the wild card Putin out there so

2827
02:07:11,650 --> 02:07:09,200
they've decided it so they have

2828
02:07:14,140 --> 02:07:11,660
essentially come out so the military

2829
02:07:16,150 --> 02:07:14,150
intelligence complex I'm by a virtue of

2830
02:07:18,430 --> 02:07:16,160
what is happening with the to the stars

2831
02:07:19,900 --> 02:07:18,440
Academy which is being backed up with

2832
02:07:21,550 --> 02:07:19,910
some kind of authorization and

2833
02:07:23,920 --> 02:07:21,560
involvement with people inside the

2834
02:07:26,020 --> 02:07:23,930
Pentagon and CIA it's already

2835
02:07:28,180 --> 02:07:26,030
established a strong public relations

2836
02:07:30,280 --> 02:07:28,190
position here people are not going to

2837
02:07:32,500 --> 02:07:30,290
forget this and it's and if they play a

2838
02:07:35,260 --> 02:07:32,510
key role in ultimately bringing about

2839
02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:35,270
disclosure their post disclosure public

2840
02:07:38,350 --> 02:07:36,170
relations problems are going to be

2841
02:07:39,790 --> 02:07:38,360
significantly less there's going to be a

2842
02:07:42,730 --> 02:07:39,800
lot of heroes a lot of people are going

2843
02:07:47,619 --> 02:07:42,740
to praise them so this is kind of one

2844
02:07:49,839 --> 02:07:47,629
track I again depending upon how

2845
02:07:52,629 --> 02:07:49,849
the political chaos gets if things

2846
02:07:56,919 --> 02:07:52,639
settle down 2019 looks very very

2847
02:08:01,239 --> 02:07:56,929
attractive and and I feel like it could

2848
02:08:04,299 --> 02:08:01,249
happen next year and again as I said I

2849
02:08:05,879 --> 02:08:04,309
confirmed to my satisfaction did Putin

2850
02:08:09,399 --> 02:08:05,889
doesn't have any problem with this and

2851
02:08:12,580 --> 02:08:09,409
as as the as the finish line for the US

2852
02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:12,590
gets closer and closer as someone like

2853
02:08:17,229 --> 02:08:15,050
Putin proceeds that the u.s. is getting

2854
02:08:20,169 --> 02:08:17,239
close to maybe disclosure happening

2855
02:08:24,069 --> 02:08:20,179
under a US president he could step in in

2856
02:08:26,109 --> 02:08:24,079
24 hours and preempt the u.s. s

2857
02:08:30,219 --> 02:08:26,119
prerogative there he can act very

2858
02:08:31,899 --> 02:08:30,229
quickly and so all I can say is that the

2859
02:08:33,909 --> 02:08:31,909
more progress we make the more tempting

2860
02:08:35,259 --> 02:08:33,919
it is for him and they meet me a couple

2861
02:08:38,169 --> 02:08:35,269
other leaders that are in the same frame

2862
02:08:41,709 --> 02:08:38,179
of mind so the situation for disclosure

2863
02:08:43,330 --> 02:08:41,719
is extremely tenuous what what what

2864
02:08:44,889 --> 02:08:43,340
really remains to be seen is which

2865
02:08:47,169 --> 02:08:44,899
nation is going to go first at this

2866
02:08:50,139 --> 02:08:47,179
point in my mind it's up to which nation

2867
02:08:53,349 --> 02:08:50,149
is going to go first off I thought I

2868
02:08:57,009 --> 02:08:53,359
thought something for me which was much

2869
02:09:00,339 --> 02:08:57,019
more definitive and interesting wasn't

2870
02:09:03,189 --> 02:09:00,349
those three videos those three videos

2871
02:09:04,959 --> 02:09:03,199
I've you know and and it's Providence

2872
02:09:07,449 --> 02:09:04,969
and all of that we can push that to the

2873
02:09:09,609 --> 02:09:07,459
side but there were two other things

2874
02:09:11,259 --> 02:09:09,619
that happened which I thought weren't

2875
02:09:14,619 --> 02:09:11,269
much more extraordinary and those were

2876
02:09:17,619 --> 02:09:14,629
those two FAA tapes that were released

2877
02:09:20,949 --> 02:09:17,629
the one that was off of the coast of was

2878
02:09:23,739 --> 02:09:20,959
up in Oregon with the f-18s and the one

2879
02:09:27,639 --> 02:09:23,749
that was down between Tucson and

2880
02:09:31,089 --> 02:09:27,649
Albuquerque and those those came from

2881
02:09:32,979 --> 02:09:31,099
the FAA those are the wait wait a minute

2882
02:09:36,669 --> 02:09:32,989
what what FAA tapes you talking about

2883
02:09:40,149 --> 02:09:36,679
okay there was a - two events that

2884
02:09:41,830 --> 02:09:40,159
happened but one was about three months

2885
02:09:44,679 --> 02:09:41,840
ago four months ago and another one

2886
02:09:49,810 --> 02:09:44,689
about two months ago the first one was

2887
02:09:52,779 --> 02:09:49,820
up in Oregon near Portland with the FAA

2888
02:09:56,409 --> 02:09:52,789
T's and their sightings and their

2889
02:09:58,629 --> 02:09:56,419
communications about and the tapes are

2890
02:09:59,890 --> 02:09:58,639
extraordinary to listen to I mean that

2891
02:10:03,600 --> 02:09:59,900
is a you of

2892
02:10:07,050 --> 02:10:03,610
sighting by f-18 Hornets and then the

2893
02:10:12,070 --> 02:10:07,060
yeah and the other one that was between

2894
02:10:14,670 --> 02:10:12,080
Tucson and of all places Albuquerque New

2895
02:10:17,020 --> 02:10:14,680
Mexico and that was it

2896
02:10:19,390 --> 02:10:17,030
but those were like yeah they're Jimmy

2897
02:10:20,890 --> 02:10:19,400
let's be clear Jimmy what what the to

2898
02:10:22,630 --> 02:10:20,900
the stars is doing is loosening the

2899
02:10:25,810 --> 02:10:22,640
wrappings on the package all the

2900
02:10:27,580 --> 02:10:25,820
packages making it more likely that

2901
02:10:29,470 --> 02:10:27,590
stuff is going to be reported more

2902
02:10:31,630 --> 02:10:29,480
likely things are going to happen more

2903
02:10:33,640 --> 02:10:31,640
likely some people may come forward so

2904
02:10:35,350 --> 02:10:33,650
that's also a factor well I mean by the

2905
02:10:39,480 --> 02:10:35,360
way something something I didn't mention

2906
02:10:42,970 --> 02:10:39,490
sure even though they did not launch

2907
02:10:46,150 --> 02:10:42,980
until October of 2017

2908
02:10:48,130 --> 02:10:46,160
it's very notable that it was just the

2909
02:10:51,190 --> 02:10:48,140
day before the inauguration of the new

2910
02:10:53,290 --> 02:10:51,200
president when the CIA decided well this

2911
02:10:54,820 --> 02:10:53,300
is a good time to release to the public

2912
02:10:57,700 --> 02:10:54,830
domain' really into the public domain

2913
02:10:59,140 --> 02:10:57,710
the 13 million CIA files previously

2914
02:11:01,180 --> 02:10:59,150
Declassified including a bunch of stuff

2915
02:11:03,190 --> 02:11:01,190
about EP UFO stuff and remote feeling

2916
02:11:05,800 --> 02:11:03,200
which you could access if you went to

2917
02:11:07,090 --> 02:11:05,810
the archives who can do that and they

2918
02:11:08,500 --> 02:11:07,100
put it out in the net you can easily

2919
02:11:11,950 --> 02:11:08,510
find those articles this happened on

2920
02:11:15,910 --> 02:11:11,960
January the 19th mm-hm and 13 million

2921
02:11:18,550 --> 02:11:15,920
documents why did the CIA do that but

2922
02:11:21,640 --> 02:11:18,560
why why do it then at all and why time

2923
02:11:25,420 --> 02:11:21,650
it to the inauguration again this was a

2924
02:11:26,860 --> 02:11:25,430
simple way for the CIA which member has

2925
02:11:29,530 --> 02:11:26,870
three people on the two the stars

2926
02:11:32,050 --> 02:11:29,540
Academy team to become part of the

2927
02:11:34,390 --> 02:11:32,060
solution to show that they're they're

2928
02:11:36,640 --> 02:11:34,400
not just simply sitting there on all

2929
02:11:39,070 --> 02:11:36,650
their secrets and not wanting to be

2930
02:11:40,420 --> 02:11:39,080
helpful this is a safe thing to do they

2931
02:11:42,160 --> 02:11:40,430
were already Declassified they just made

2932
02:11:44,680 --> 02:11:42,170
them available to every person on the

2933
02:11:46,720 --> 02:11:44,690
internet three billion people so that's

2934
02:11:49,210 --> 02:11:46,730
another example of the military

2935
02:11:50,620 --> 02:11:49,220
intelligence complex knowing the public

2936
02:11:53,590 --> 02:11:50,630
relations problems they're going to face

2937
02:11:56,320 --> 02:11:53,600
on disclosure getting out ahead of the

2938
02:11:58,170 --> 02:11:56,330
issue so they can get a little of the

2939
02:12:00,550 --> 02:11:58,180
you know get a little bit of afterwards

2940
02:12:01,930 --> 02:12:00,560
yeah and be able to say look we did we

2941
02:12:03,880 --> 02:12:01,940
were doing what we could do we did our

2942
02:12:05,230 --> 02:12:03,890
best and people are going to go great

2943
02:12:08,530 --> 02:12:05,240
you know you really did thank you so

2944
02:12:10,090 --> 02:12:08,540
much this is a serious thing you got

2945
02:12:12,280 --> 02:12:10,100
you've got these national security

2946
02:12:13,450 --> 02:12:12,290
people there are thousands of them that

2947
02:12:16,240 --> 02:12:13,460
have been sitting on this

2948
02:12:19,270 --> 02:12:16,250
issue either directly or indirectly by

2949
02:12:21,459 --> 02:12:19,280
just not not talking about it for 70

2950
02:12:23,140 --> 02:12:21,469
years now loud we're already dead but

2951
02:12:26,470 --> 02:12:23,150
there's plenty of people still alive and

2952
02:12:27,820 --> 02:12:26,480
they know that it's a huge problem for

2953
02:12:29,380 --> 02:12:27,830
them they know that there's a

2954
02:12:30,850 --> 02:12:29,390
constitutional breach they know there's

2955
02:12:33,340 --> 02:12:30,860
other stuff that's been yanked out from

2956
02:12:34,690 --> 02:12:33,350
under proper oversight in the White

2957
02:12:36,250 --> 02:12:34,700
House and they're going to have to

2958
02:12:39,610 --> 02:12:36,260
answer for that too but none of them are

2959
02:12:42,370 --> 02:12:39,620
as big as this and so I don't blame them

2960
02:12:45,760 --> 02:12:42,380
for trying to to do what they can to

2961
02:12:47,530 --> 02:12:45,770
improve their public posture on this so

2962
02:12:50,290 --> 02:12:47,540
that they don't get completely thrown

2963
02:12:52,870 --> 02:12:50,300
under the bus when it comes down well

2964
02:12:59,500 --> 02:12:52,880
how do we know Steve but Steve how do we

2965
02:13:02,979 --> 02:12:59,510
um know how do we know and trust members

2966
02:13:06,270 --> 02:13:02,989
of the CIA X Corporation guys X company

2967
02:13:10,959 --> 02:13:06,280
guys where their job is is lies and

2968
02:13:14,080 --> 02:13:10,969
deception first off and second Elizondo

2969
02:13:18,810 --> 02:13:14,090
who is counterintelligence where that's

2970
02:13:22,840 --> 02:13:18,820
a that was his gig - why are we now

2971
02:13:25,060 --> 02:13:22,850
supposed to trust and and and believe

2972
02:13:27,570 --> 02:13:25,070
what is actually going on I mean with

2973
02:13:31,060 --> 02:13:27,580
the big picture be the opposite of that

2974
02:13:34,330 --> 02:13:31,070
well first of all the intelligence

2975
02:13:37,780 --> 02:13:34,340
services do a lot of manipulation and

2976
02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:37,790
lying from clandestine positions that's

2977
02:13:41,470 --> 02:13:39,050
their job and they feel like they're

2978
02:13:42,010 --> 02:13:41,480
defending the country these guys are the

2979
02:13:45,280 --> 02:13:42,020
best

2980
02:13:47,650 --> 02:13:45,290
they put out their resumes they they're

2981
02:13:49,600 --> 02:13:47,660
not hiding anything yeah I was I was I

2982
02:13:51,790 --> 02:13:49,610
was CIA intelligence operation South

2983
02:13:53,740 --> 02:13:51,800
America I was this I was that

2984
02:13:55,209 --> 02:13:53,750
Christopher Mellon all over the in

2985
02:13:57,400 --> 02:13:55,219
political intelligence connections

2986
02:13:59,920 --> 02:13:57,410
between opinion of Congress and they

2987
02:14:03,400 --> 02:13:59,930
just sang him right so here we and here

2988
02:14:05,530 --> 02:14:03,410
we are in years so it's if they're not

2989
02:14:07,240 --> 02:14:05,540
try to hide anything they're not trying

2990
02:14:08,260 --> 02:14:07,250
to say that what they're not and then

2991
02:14:11,350 --> 02:14:08,270
the other thing is you do look at what

2992
02:14:13,420 --> 02:14:11,360
they say I mean we know a lot of stuff

2993
02:14:16,660 --> 02:14:13,430
we're not we're not completely ignorant

2994
02:14:18,010 --> 02:14:16,670
here and we're able to assess everything

2995
02:14:21,340 --> 02:14:18,020
they're saying and I have been reviewing

2996
02:14:23,830 --> 02:14:21,350
it all I've got 88 videos on my paradigm

2997
02:14:26,110 --> 02:14:23,840
research group website right now of news

2998
02:14:26,730 --> 02:14:26,120
coverage television news coverage as

2999
02:14:28,950 --> 02:14:26,740
well

3000
02:14:31,860 --> 02:14:28,960
scores of interviews with with one or

3001
02:14:35,580 --> 02:14:31,870
more of these people and when you review

3002
02:14:39,600 --> 02:14:35,590
it I do not see deception I do not see

3003
02:14:42,540 --> 02:14:39,610
manipulation and so they are going they

3004
02:14:48,300 --> 02:14:42,550
will eventually earn our trust by

3005
02:14:50,730 --> 02:14:48,310
putting out valid information and and we

3006
02:14:52,140 --> 02:14:50,740
will judge them by their actions so

3007
02:14:53,640 --> 02:14:52,150
we're off to a pretty good start now

3008
02:14:55,340 --> 02:14:53,650
again there's plenty of people attacking

3009
02:15:00,060 --> 02:14:55,350
them but what else is new

3010
02:15:02,250 --> 02:15:00,070
that that was to be expected my job is

3011
02:15:04,620 --> 02:15:02,260
not to attack my job is to assess right

3012
02:15:06,960 --> 02:15:04,630
right I've assessed the attacks I'm not

3013
02:15:07,710 --> 02:15:06,970
not impressed I've assessed what the

3014
02:15:09,270 --> 02:15:07,720
team is doing

3015
02:15:11,280 --> 02:15:09,280
I'm very impressed and that's where I'm

3016
02:15:13,590 --> 02:15:11,290
at and I assure you that if I if I come

3017
02:15:15,330 --> 02:15:13,600
to a different opinion if I if I learn

3018
02:15:17,160 --> 02:15:15,340
things that makes me say oh my god this

3019
02:15:20,910 --> 02:15:17,170
is a maneuver this is a

3020
02:15:23,400 --> 02:15:20,920
misrepresentation I'm gonna tell you so

3021
02:15:24,720 --> 02:15:23,410
that's bet the best I can do I'm very

3022
02:15:26,760 --> 02:15:24,730
comfortable what they're doing I'm very

3023
02:15:29,480 --> 02:15:26,770
pleased with what they're doing I'm very

3024
02:15:32,280 --> 02:15:29,490
respectful of what they're doing and

3025
02:15:34,860 --> 02:15:32,290
welcomed along is the spokesperson seems

3026
02:15:36,750 --> 02:15:34,870
a little odd I know it's not as odd as

3027
02:15:38,010 --> 02:15:36,760
people think if they knew the full story

3028
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:38,020
Tom DeLonge I think they might

3029
02:15:43,710 --> 02:15:40,810
understand that this is not that crazy

3030
02:15:47,370 --> 02:15:43,720
and the key spokesperson is Elizondo by

3031
02:15:48,930 --> 02:15:47,380
and large so we I'm I know all can I say

3032
02:15:51,480 --> 02:15:48,940
if it wasn't for the political hurricane

3033
02:15:52,800 --> 02:15:51,490
underway I'd be I'd be planning for the

3034
02:15:54,870 --> 02:15:52,810
post disclosure world to me

3035
02:15:56,850 --> 02:15:54,880
I mean we're gonna party right yeah you

3036
02:15:59,160 --> 02:15:56,860
in the champagne well you and I are

3037
02:16:04,080 --> 02:15:59,170
gonna light those fires I I'm with you

3038
02:16:08,490 --> 02:16:04,090
on that did see there its DeLong is a

3039
02:16:11,550 --> 02:16:08,500
bit of an enigma I'll say this I've gone

3040
02:16:13,620 --> 02:16:11,560
back and listened to the three hours

3041
02:16:16,010 --> 02:16:13,630
that I did with him right on fade to

3042
02:16:18,390 --> 02:16:16,020
black and I've gone back my original

3043
02:16:21,360 --> 02:16:18,400
after the show was done it was like oh

3044
02:16:24,390 --> 02:16:21,370
that was fun but you know it wasn't that

3045
02:16:28,800 --> 02:16:24,400
if I went back and listened to it a few

3046
02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:28,810
times and it was a much better interview

3047
02:16:35,340 --> 02:16:32,170
than my memory was I thought that he was

3048
02:16:37,710 --> 02:16:35,350
he was very bright and and was was on

3049
02:16:39,339 --> 02:16:37,720
top of his game and I've talked to him

3050
02:16:43,299 --> 02:16:39,349
as you know men

3051
02:16:45,459 --> 02:16:43,309
many times privately and I think that

3052
02:16:48,669 --> 02:16:45,469
he's always been committed I think he's

3053
02:16:51,189 --> 02:16:48,679
a funny guy his the private

3054
02:16:52,570 --> 02:16:51,199
conversations are very animated and I

3055
02:16:56,740 --> 02:16:52,580
think he's down to earth with his feet

3056
02:16:59,889 --> 02:16:56,750
on the ground that'd be enough but that

3057
02:17:02,799 --> 02:16:59,899
being said you've got this momentum

3058
02:17:05,139 --> 02:17:02,809
going on here and you the if you're

3059
02:17:07,959 --> 02:17:05,149
gonna lose the community you need to

3060
02:17:10,269 --> 02:17:07,969
bring the community back and that's

3061
02:17:13,330 --> 02:17:10,279
where I think the disconnect is right

3062
02:17:16,540 --> 02:17:13,340
now and the community needs it

3063
02:17:20,169 --> 02:17:16,550
you you you rope them in you got them

3064
02:17:24,459 --> 02:17:20,179
you hugged them and then the wind was

3065
02:17:26,049 --> 02:17:24,469
let out of their sails and the wind was

3066
02:17:28,240 --> 02:17:26,059
let out of their expectations well I

3067
02:17:30,700 --> 02:17:28,250
mean everybody expected them to start

3068
02:17:33,280 --> 02:17:30,710
you know hauling saucers out of hangars

3069
02:17:35,259 --> 02:17:33,290
and was nothing less than that was going

3070
02:17:37,990 --> 02:17:35,269
to satisfy him no that wasn't going to

3071
02:17:39,719 --> 02:17:38,000
happen but what's wrong and what's wrong

3072
02:17:42,309 --> 02:17:39,729
with that is what I'm saying

3073
02:17:45,250 --> 02:17:42,319
wrong with it it's it's not doable it's

3074
02:17:46,990 --> 02:17:45,260
okay they are operating it's not like

3075
02:17:50,139 --> 02:17:47,000
the entire military intelligence complex

3076
02:17:52,870 --> 02:17:50,149
has decided this is it they are they are

3077
02:17:54,370 --> 02:17:52,880
a group that has decided to make this

3078
02:17:56,679 --> 02:17:54,380
move there's plenty of opposition still

3079
02:17:58,660 --> 02:17:56,689
in the end I see sure and they if they

3080
02:18:00,070 --> 02:17:58,670
get if they get out of line and over

3081
02:18:01,809 --> 02:18:00,080
they're not they're not doing anything

3082
02:18:03,429 --> 02:18:01,819
illegal they're not releasing on class

3083
02:18:05,320 --> 02:18:03,439
and classified material they're not

3084
02:18:07,059 --> 02:18:05,330
violating any non-disclosure oath they

3085
02:18:09,490 --> 02:18:07,069
don't even say the word extraterrestrial

3086
02:18:10,899 --> 02:18:09,500
so they've been given certain rules and

3087
02:18:12,729 --> 02:18:10,909
guidelines and they're staying within

3088
02:18:14,859 --> 02:18:12,739
them so and there may be some control of

3089
02:18:16,030 --> 02:18:14,869
a pace of things and that's just the way

3090
02:18:17,589 --> 02:18:16,040
it's going to be the fact that they're

3091
02:18:19,780 --> 02:18:17,599
out there at all we should be thrilled

3092
02:18:22,299 --> 02:18:19,790
that's there's some question about that

3093
02:18:26,620 --> 02:18:22,309
what I am saying and you're absolutely

3094
02:18:28,870 --> 02:18:26,630
right what I'm saying is T TSA either

3095
02:18:30,639 --> 02:18:28,880
DeLonge or Elizondo if he's going to be

3096
02:18:34,149 --> 02:18:30,649
the face of this has come out and then

3097
02:18:36,309 --> 02:18:34,159
to address these issues that's all just

3098
02:18:39,969 --> 02:18:36,319
just come out and address them the

3099
02:18:42,639 --> 02:18:39,979
silence is very bad it's the trust thing

3100
02:18:45,969 --> 02:18:42,649
the talk not totally silent Jim not you

3101
02:18:48,250 --> 02:18:45,979
know he gave it he gave a filmed Q&A to

3102
02:18:51,099 --> 02:18:48,260
the International UFO Congress back in

3103
02:18:52,839 --> 02:18:51,109
February he gave a filmed Q&A response

3104
02:18:53,110 --> 02:18:52,849
to the Brazilian conference about just

3105
02:18:56,680 --> 02:18:53,120
about a

3106
02:18:58,750 --> 02:18:56,690
month ago and they did have some issues

3107
02:19:00,910 --> 02:18:58,760
they had some problems as they started

3108
02:19:02,680 --> 02:19:00,920
to engage our community which was good

3109
02:19:04,840 --> 02:19:02,690
because it indicated they're not going

3110
02:19:07,209 --> 02:19:04,850
to pretend we didn't exist they do

3111
02:19:10,690 --> 02:19:07,219
I think there's respect there for all

3112
02:19:13,350 --> 02:19:10,700
that's been done by the community but

3113
02:19:16,240 --> 02:19:13,360
the community is frustrated angry

3114
02:19:17,919 --> 02:19:16,250
irritable because we've been an

3115
02:19:19,390 --> 02:19:17,929
intellectual ghetto for seventy years

3116
02:19:21,940 --> 02:19:19,400
let me tell you we're gonna go to 70

3117
02:19:23,230 --> 02:19:21,950
years you get a little testy and and and

3118
02:19:26,290 --> 02:19:23,240
we have we know the you know the

3119
02:19:28,270 --> 02:19:26,300
questions to ask and so if they get it

3120
02:19:29,530 --> 02:19:28,280
too close to us we start firing off all

3121
02:19:32,890 --> 02:19:29,540
these questions that they can't answer

3122
02:19:35,770 --> 02:19:32,900
and so they had to kind of step back but

3123
02:19:40,180 --> 02:19:35,780
it's notable Elizondo will make his

3124
02:19:43,419 --> 02:19:40,190
first public engagement of our community

3125
02:19:47,020 --> 02:19:43,429
at the MUFON symposium at the end of

3126
02:19:49,180 --> 02:19:47,030
this month July 24 to 27 he is going to

3127
02:19:51,160 --> 02:19:49,190
be live he's going to be speaking there

3128
02:19:53,261 --> 02:19:51,170
I anticipate the questions will be

3129
02:19:56,560 --> 02:19:53,271
controlled it's not going to be Mike

3130
02:19:58,330 --> 02:19:56,570
people coming up to a mic but they're

3131
02:20:00,940 --> 02:19:58,340
trying to then re-engage us and I think

3132
02:20:03,850 --> 02:20:00,950
they deliberately decided to use MUFON

3133
02:20:05,620 --> 02:20:03,860
it's sort of a door to engage us because

3134
02:20:08,830 --> 02:20:05,630
it's established organization there's

3135
02:20:10,600 --> 02:20:08,840
some some structure and so forth and

3136
02:20:12,910 --> 02:20:10,610
they're gonna be working with MUFON

3137
02:20:15,640 --> 02:20:12,920
directly which is fine so that's about

3138
02:20:18,850 --> 02:20:15,650
to happen in just a few weeks but again

3139
02:20:22,980 --> 02:20:18,860
you cannot underestimate the effect of

3140
02:20:25,660 --> 02:20:22,990
this extraordinary political chaos on

3141
02:20:27,940 --> 02:20:25,670
anybody's plans particularly plans like

3142
02:20:29,350 --> 02:20:27,950
this look this political chaos is in the

3143
02:20:31,810 --> 02:20:29,360
process of consuming NATO

3144
02:20:34,810 --> 02:20:31,820
it's got Britain up and not just got

3145
02:20:36,610 --> 02:20:34,820
Germany is completely confused right

3146
02:20:42,630 --> 02:20:36,620
we've got a trade war beginning with

3147
02:20:45,460 --> 02:20:42,640
China this is way off the scale Jim

3148
02:20:47,470 --> 02:20:45,470
as a political observer for a long time

3149
02:20:50,310 --> 02:20:47,480
I can tell you we are we are in

3150
02:20:54,580 --> 02:20:50,320
Wonderland and and they are having to

3151
02:20:56,680 --> 02:20:54,590
they never expected this they had a plan

3152
02:20:59,070 --> 02:20:56,690
and it was a good plan and it was based

3153
02:21:00,520 --> 02:20:59,080
on Hillary Clinton becoming president

3154
02:21:02,530 --> 02:21:00,530
regardless of what they thought about

3155
02:21:04,480 --> 02:21:02,540
her politics she was going to disclose

3156
02:21:05,830 --> 02:21:04,490
and there's a whole track record but the

3157
02:21:06,969 --> 02:21:05,840
Clinton team going all the way back to

3158
02:21:08,800 --> 02:21:06,979
93

3159
02:21:09,940 --> 02:21:08,810
she discloses they got ahead of it

3160
02:21:12,190 --> 02:21:09,950
everybody wins

3161
02:21:14,770 --> 02:21:12,200
so that election disrupted their plans

3162
02:21:18,460 --> 02:21:14,780
it disrupted the plans of countless

3163
02:21:20,290 --> 02:21:18,470
organizations initiative projects then

3164
02:21:22,920 --> 02:21:20,300
it started undoing stuff that had been

3165
02:21:25,719 --> 02:21:22,930
done for years literally tearing down

3166
02:21:28,060 --> 02:21:25,729
structures not just confusing future

3167
02:21:32,380 --> 02:21:28,070
projects so we're in uncharted territory

3168
02:21:34,690 --> 02:21:32,390
and all I can say is that while they

3169
02:21:38,020 --> 02:21:34,700
have their slow walking it they are

3170
02:21:42,010 --> 02:21:38,030
doing some things look in May May about

3171
02:21:44,770 --> 02:21:42,020
May t8 belong again this notice how its

3172
02:21:48,190 --> 02:21:44,780
kind of low-key he puts up a write-up on

3173
02:21:50,950 --> 02:21:48,200
his Facebook page and in this write-up

3174
02:21:54,400 --> 02:21:50,960
he says we're making some progress we're

3175
02:21:55,630 --> 02:21:54,410
having meetings on the hill private I'm

3176
02:21:58,060 --> 02:21:55,640
having we're having meetings in

3177
02:22:00,130 --> 02:21:58,070
Hollywood with big producers and studios

3178
02:22:00,580 --> 02:22:00,140
for some serious movies and things like

3179
02:22:07,120 --> 02:22:00,590
that

3180
02:22:08,710 --> 02:22:07,130
do public stuff is a problem trying to

3181
02:22:10,660 --> 02:22:08,720
get a story in the New York Times it's a

3182
02:22:11,200 --> 02:22:10,670
problem but having some private meetings

3183
02:22:14,260 --> 02:22:11,210
on the hill

3184
02:22:17,710 --> 02:22:14,270
sure so God knows what's in the works

3185
02:22:19,990 --> 02:22:17,720
potentially and and it takes time for

3186
02:22:22,480 --> 02:22:20,000
these kinds of things to develop and if

3187
02:22:24,250 --> 02:22:22,490
it's behind the scenes it's not it's not

3188
02:22:30,820 --> 02:22:24,260
going to create much of a way for them

3189
02:22:35,500 --> 02:22:30,830
so that's in May he initiated that so it

3190
02:22:39,400 --> 02:22:35,510
hasn't stopped and I have every right to

3191
02:22:42,190 --> 02:22:39,410
be utterly impatient about this 21 years

3192
02:22:44,950 --> 02:22:42,200
a Stan just retired after 50 years of

3193
02:22:47,350 --> 02:22:44,960
engaging this issue I know I know

3194
02:22:49,210 --> 02:22:47,360
before before I say good night and thank

3195
02:22:54,429 --> 02:22:49,220
you for hanging out for a few extra

3196
02:22:57,310 --> 02:22:54,439
minutes you are working on a film so

3197
02:23:00,670 --> 02:22:57,320
tell us about that and and where are you

3198
02:23:03,340 --> 02:23:00,680
with it and I believe you're trying to

3199
02:23:05,920 --> 02:23:03,350
raise some funds too as well it's

3200
02:23:07,660 --> 02:23:05,930
complicated I've got a production deal

3201
02:23:11,050 --> 02:23:07,670
with Mr Singh Kaleka

3202
02:23:12,790 --> 02:23:11,060
and never ending life productions we

3203
02:23:15,160 --> 02:23:12,800
have initial teaser it's not a trailer a

3204
02:23:19,300 --> 02:23:15,170
teaser put together and we have a

3205
02:23:20,650 --> 02:23:19,310
website disclosure dot film but until we

3206
02:23:20,889 --> 02:23:20,660
can raise a hundred thousand we can't

3207
02:23:22,840 --> 02:23:20,899
start

3208
02:23:24,250 --> 02:23:22,850
production and and and the film will

3209
02:23:25,809 --> 02:23:24,260
literally be the political story that

3210
02:23:28,599 --> 02:23:25,819
I've been telling you with some other

3211
02:23:30,279 --> 02:23:28,609
stuff but it be involving interviewing a

3212
02:23:32,790 --> 02:23:30,289
whole lot of principals involved in this

3213
02:23:35,349 --> 02:23:32,800
story about 55 total of the targets

3214
02:23:36,550 --> 02:23:35,359
so basically political stories from 93

3215
02:23:39,550 --> 02:23:36,560
to 2017

3216
02:23:41,859 --> 02:23:39,560
it's called disclosure but again because

3217
02:23:43,960 --> 02:23:41,869
of the political storm underway we

3218
02:23:47,050 --> 02:23:43,970
cannot we cannot really get focused

3219
02:23:48,699 --> 02:23:47,060
attention so we were not able to raise

3220
02:23:50,529 --> 02:23:48,709
money right now

3221
02:23:51,550 --> 02:23:50,539
that doesn't mean a donor couldn't turn

3222
02:23:52,870 --> 02:23:51,560
up tomorrow and say look what do you

3223
02:23:54,969 --> 02:23:52,880
need to get started a hundred thousand a

3224
02:23:56,380 --> 02:23:54,979
week start production the budget total

3225
02:23:58,389 --> 02:23:56,390
budget for the film in the book is six

3226
02:23:59,620 --> 02:23:58,399
hundred thousand mm-hmm so it's I guess

3227
02:24:03,399 --> 02:23:59,630
you could say it's in suspension the

3228
02:24:05,500 --> 02:24:03,409
website is still up the teaser is up but

3229
02:24:08,620 --> 02:24:05,510
we are kind of in the position through

3230
02:24:11,620 --> 02:24:08,630
the Stars Academy you can't compete with

3231
02:24:13,630 --> 02:24:11,630
a hurricane of this magnitude you got to

3232
02:24:16,269 --> 02:24:13,640
stay indoors and bunker down shut the

3233
02:24:19,120 --> 02:24:16,279
windows right right right remove all the

3234
02:24:21,460 --> 02:24:19,130
patio furniture and wait for the storm

3235
02:24:22,870 --> 02:24:21,470
to pass and and so right now I guess you

3236
02:24:24,399 --> 02:24:22,880
could say it's in suspension but if

3237
02:24:26,080 --> 02:24:24,409
there's any significant donor out there

3238
02:24:28,989 --> 02:24:26,090
they would like to see a major disappear

3239
02:24:31,409 --> 02:24:28,999
major documentary if we if it's done the

3240
02:24:35,109 --> 02:24:31,419
way we want to do it it will not be some

3241
02:24:37,899 --> 02:24:35,119
Netflix documentary it'll be potentially

3242
02:24:41,229 --> 02:24:37,909
the full screen theater distribution

3243
02:24:44,979 --> 02:24:41,239
dock and that's where that's at Jim so

3244
02:24:47,469 --> 02:24:44,989
again patients what can I say there well

3245
02:24:49,710 --> 02:24:47,479
you've always continued to roll that

3246
02:24:53,349 --> 02:24:49,720
rock uphill and you know you've got the

3247
02:24:55,659 --> 02:24:53,359
respect of this community man and every

3248
02:24:58,359 --> 02:24:55,669
time that I see you I say the same thing

3249
02:25:00,909 --> 02:24:58,369
as I shake your hand and just keep

3250
02:25:04,389 --> 02:25:00,919
rolling that rock uphill Steve and never

3251
02:25:06,580 --> 02:25:04,399
change okay okay I will do music

3252
02:25:08,290 --> 02:25:06,590
greatest supporter as well and big

3253
02:25:09,489 --> 02:25:08,300
things are ahead of us just hang in

3254
02:25:14,679 --> 02:25:09,499
there

3255
02:25:16,659 --> 02:25:14,689
too much it's already out too much has

3256
02:25:17,679 --> 02:25:16,669
happened something's going to give I

3257
02:25:20,170 --> 02:25:17,689
hope it's not Putin

3258
02:25:22,300 --> 02:25:20,180
I hope the US will be the leader on this

3259
02:25:23,949 --> 02:25:22,310
well you've already picked that to

3260
02:25:27,790 --> 02:25:23,959
happen to laughter I watched all of

3261
02:25:30,159 --> 02:25:27,800
those tapes out of Moscow and I thought

3262
02:25:32,440 --> 02:25:30,169
to myself man he is just stirred the

3263
02:25:34,830 --> 02:25:32,450
hornet's nest and

3264
02:25:38,800 --> 02:25:34,840
I got I mean I was I was nervous

3265
02:25:42,910 --> 02:25:38,810
watching those for you and the fact that

3266
02:25:45,910 --> 02:25:42,920
you dig it out of there alive says a lot

3267
02:25:49,090 --> 02:25:45,920
and you know that Putin was well aware

3268
02:25:51,010 --> 02:25:49,100
and and everybody else that part of his

3269
02:25:54,280 --> 02:25:51,020
circle so you never know man you may

3270
02:25:55,750 --> 02:25:54,290
have poked the bear I think I did I

3271
02:25:57,880 --> 02:25:55,760
wasn't worried about getting out alive I

3272
02:26:00,250 --> 02:25:57,890
was worried about baby being stopped and

3273
02:26:02,560 --> 02:26:00,260
have a little interview right were you

3274
02:26:05,260 --> 02:26:02,570
come on over to the we gotta go to the

3275
02:26:06,670 --> 02:26:05,270
room get chat a little bit right which

3276
02:26:09,100 --> 02:26:06,680
would have been an indication of some

3277
02:26:12,010 --> 02:26:09,110
displeasure but that didn't happen in

3278
02:26:14,670 --> 02:26:12,020
fact nothing has happened and I got the

3279
02:26:17,020 --> 02:26:14,680
to the to prop to are you articles

3280
02:26:18,969 --> 02:26:17,030
actually my presentation now but I gotta

3281
02:26:21,730 --> 02:26:18,979
get them up on my website there you can

3282
02:26:23,560 --> 02:26:21,740
find them if you go to the print media

3283
02:26:28,030 --> 02:26:23,570
archive and paradigm research group side

3284
02:26:30,640 --> 02:26:28,040
org and and look in the December of 2017

3285
02:26:31,780 --> 02:26:30,650
you can find the two prob to ru articles

3286
02:26:34,960 --> 02:26:31,790
they're right there and you can read

3287
02:26:36,460 --> 02:26:34,970
them basically yeah yeah probably are

3288
02:26:38,880 --> 02:26:36,470
you is a lot of people say well it's

3289
02:26:41,890 --> 02:26:38,890
just a kind of a Russian tabloid site

3290
02:26:43,540 --> 02:26:41,900
but I assure you the Kremlin knows

3291
02:26:46,150 --> 02:26:43,550
what's going on and probably are you

3292
02:26:49,300 --> 02:26:46,160
they owned a firm plaintiff who they

3293
02:26:51,280 --> 02:26:49,310
owned it yep and so these articles are

3294
02:26:54,250 --> 02:26:51,290
basically saying this activist wants

3295
02:26:56,860 --> 02:26:54,260
Putin's in disclosed and I'm going okay

3296
02:26:59,200 --> 02:26:56,870
that's good now it hasn't turned up on

3297
02:27:03,190 --> 02:26:59,210
RT it hasn't turned up elsewhere that

3298
02:27:06,550 --> 02:27:03,200
I'm aware of and so again that was an

3299
02:27:08,170 --> 02:27:06,560
indicator but all I learned was that

3300
02:27:09,250 --> 02:27:08,180
he's not uncomfortable with it doesn't

3301
02:27:09,550 --> 02:27:09,260
mean he's going to do something right

3302
02:27:11,560 --> 02:27:09,560
away

3303
02:27:14,770 --> 02:27:11,570
was it an awful lot going on right now

3304
02:27:17,110 --> 02:27:14,780
wasn't it med valve that slipped up on

3305
02:27:20,410 --> 02:27:17,120
on the news one night and said that he's

3306
02:27:24,160 --> 02:27:20,420
got the what did he say

3307
02:27:26,110 --> 02:27:24,170
I forget he I know ya know the care was

3308
02:27:28,030 --> 02:27:26,120
after a News interview after news

3309
02:27:30,969 --> 02:27:28,040
interviews in the hall talking to the to

3310
02:27:32,800 --> 02:27:30,979
the one of the reporter types after it's

3311
02:27:35,440 --> 02:27:32,810
over but she has the mic on

3312
02:27:37,750 --> 02:27:35,450
she asked him about the secret books and

3313
02:27:40,690 --> 02:27:37,760
stuff and the secrets get passed from

3314
02:27:43,240 --> 02:27:40,700
one president of the next and he said

3315
02:27:45,160 --> 02:27:43,250
yeah and he literally referred to the et

3316
02:27:46,210 --> 02:27:45,170
issue and said that you can learn a lot

3317
02:27:49,030 --> 02:27:46,220
about that and

3318
02:27:50,139 --> 02:27:49,040
called men in black was that a slip-up I

3319
02:27:50,830 --> 02:27:50,149
don't think so I think it was

3320
02:27:52,570 --> 02:27:50,840
intentional

3321
02:27:55,179 --> 02:27:52,580
it was another little message to the

3322
02:27:57,190 --> 02:27:55,189
u.s. it we're not we're not chopped

3323
02:28:00,660 --> 02:27:57,200
liver here we're not potted plants we

3324
02:28:03,099 --> 02:28:00,670
know about this to just let you know and

3325
02:28:04,900 --> 02:28:03,109
the American media this is so classic

3326
02:28:07,019 --> 02:28:04,910
the American media are naturally

3327
02:28:09,460 --> 02:28:07,029
immediately interpreted as a joke

3328
02:28:10,990 --> 02:28:09,470
because obviously saw a joke right under

3329
02:28:12,010 --> 02:28:11,000
the truth embargo it's all a joke and

3330
02:28:14,050 --> 02:28:12,020
that's what you have to keep telling

3331
02:28:15,130 --> 02:28:14,060
yourself so you don't feel bad about the

3332
02:28:16,660 --> 02:28:15,140
fact that you've committed a

3333
02:28:18,160 --> 02:28:16,670
journalistic failure that history we'll

3334
02:28:20,200 --> 02:28:18,170
be talking about for a thousand years

3335
02:28:21,639 --> 02:28:20,210
whatever right but of course you but he

3336
02:28:23,200 --> 02:28:21,649
turns out he wasn't talking about men in

3337
02:28:26,679 --> 02:28:23,210
black with Will Smith he was talking

3338
02:28:29,679 --> 02:28:26,689
about a documentary in Russia called men

3339
02:28:33,490 --> 02:28:29,689
in black which was a serious doc so yeah

3340
02:28:36,760 --> 02:28:33,500
with a little thing there did that yeah

3341
02:28:39,130 --> 02:28:36,770
and did they follow up no but look

3342
02:28:39,700 --> 02:28:39,140
believe me Russia has done more research

3343
02:28:43,630 --> 02:28:39,710
on this

3344
02:28:45,160 --> 02:28:43,640
well I Russia has done a Soviet Union of

3345
02:28:46,269 --> 02:28:45,170
Russia done tons of research and et

3346
02:28:48,250 --> 02:28:46,279
issues a lot of it's been more

3347
02:28:50,080 --> 02:28:48,260
publicized than in the US there's tons

3348
02:28:52,090 --> 02:28:50,090
of people tons of military and pilots

3349
02:28:53,860 --> 02:28:52,100
and astronauts that have that have made

3350
02:28:55,690 --> 02:28:53,870
statements that kind of confirm it the

3351
02:28:57,700 --> 02:28:55,700
Russians know what's going on did they

3352
02:28:59,979 --> 02:28:57,710
have a crash vehicle or more like we do

3353
02:29:01,809 --> 02:28:59,989
don't know because they know is in et

3354
02:29:04,870 --> 02:29:01,819
presence you better believe they do and

3355
02:29:05,860 --> 02:29:04,880
they have their own reasons and I've

3356
02:29:08,229 --> 02:29:05,870
always had their own reasons for

3357
02:29:09,490 --> 02:29:08,239
maintaining their position which is

3358
02:29:10,780 --> 02:29:09,500
basically an embargo they're not

3359
02:29:12,219 --> 02:29:10,790
acknowledging it but they're not

3360
02:29:14,320 --> 02:29:12,229
stopping research on it they're not

3361
02:29:16,380 --> 02:29:14,330
they're not cashiering people that talk

3362
02:29:18,729 --> 02:29:16,390
about it you know give that give a

3363
02:29:21,460 --> 02:29:18,739
interview to whether it's George Napper

3364
02:29:25,240 --> 02:29:21,470
or HESA men or some of the others that

3365
02:29:29,700 --> 02:29:25,250
have gone over there so the our CIA has

3366
02:29:32,769 --> 02:29:29,710
got to know that they don't have some

3367
02:29:35,830 --> 02:29:32,779
extraterrestrial phobia or they're

3368
02:29:39,790 --> 02:29:35,840
afraid of addressing this issue

3369
02:29:42,550 --> 02:29:39,800
nationally they must know that and

3370
02:29:44,740 --> 02:29:42,560
therefore they have to assume if they're

3371
02:29:47,019 --> 02:29:44,750
unless they have to assume that they

3372
02:29:51,040 --> 02:29:47,029
could act at any time if they're not

3373
02:29:53,979 --> 02:29:51,050
doing that they're making a huge mistake

3374
02:29:56,349 --> 02:29:53,989
and so all I can say is right now and

3375
02:29:58,870 --> 02:29:56,359
I've said this if you had if I had to

3376
02:29:59,889 --> 02:29:58,880
list the heads of state most likely to

3377
02:30:03,099 --> 02:29:59,899
disclose

3378
02:30:05,860 --> 02:30:03,109
Putin is at the top right now not not

3379
02:30:08,040 --> 02:30:05,870
our president and that's just the way it

3380
02:30:11,679 --> 02:30:08,050
is yeah and you know and this is

3381
02:30:14,230 --> 02:30:11,689
whatever anybody thinks about Putin I'll

3382
02:30:17,020 --> 02:30:14,240
lay down the facts right now he does

3383
02:30:19,900 --> 02:30:17,030
what he wants and he's got the respect

3384
02:30:22,599 --> 02:30:19,910
of Russia propping him up and the he

3385
02:30:24,849 --> 02:30:22,609
makes his own decisions there is nobody

3386
02:30:27,670 --> 02:30:24,859
else there telling him what to do

3387
02:30:28,480 --> 02:30:27,680
it's a absolutely and the circumstances

3388
02:30:30,700 --> 02:30:28,490
are ideal

3389
02:30:33,340 --> 02:30:30,710
he's authoritarian he's got a high

3390
02:30:36,310 --> 02:30:33,350
approval rating Russian - Russian people

3391
02:30:38,620 --> 02:30:36,320
and and the Putin in a political class

3392
02:30:41,050 --> 02:30:38,630
are very irritated they've been

3393
02:30:42,940 --> 02:30:41,060
disrespected by the West since they they

3394
02:30:46,300 --> 02:30:42,950
basically conceded their Republic's and

3395
02:30:50,320 --> 02:30:46,310
and stood down from the Cold War they've

3396
02:30:52,000 --> 02:30:50,330
been I guess you would say abused we're

3397
02:30:53,590 --> 02:30:52,010
constantly talking about how do this and

3398
02:30:55,000 --> 02:30:53,600
that and their economy is you know the

3399
02:30:57,969 --> 02:30:55,010
equivalent of Rhode Island or whatever

3400
02:31:02,139 --> 02:30:57,979
the hell they don't like it they're a

3401
02:31:03,520 --> 02:31:02,149
vast nation with a huge history believe

3402
02:31:05,500 --> 02:31:03,530
me if they get their act together they

3403
02:31:06,670 --> 02:31:05,510
could be the next China the point is

3404
02:31:10,660 --> 02:31:06,680
that they're not like they don't like

3405
02:31:13,050 --> 02:31:10,670
this and so this idea that that if Putin

3406
02:31:16,090 --> 02:31:13,060
were to disclose the Russian people

3407
02:31:18,310 --> 02:31:16,100
would be thrilled Russia would be

3408
02:31:19,719 --> 02:31:18,320
elevated Putin would be elevated it

3409
02:31:22,929 --> 02:31:19,729
would be a real kick in the butt to the

3410
02:31:25,840 --> 02:31:22,939
west on on a paper it looks like a

3411
02:31:29,500 --> 02:31:25,850
no-brainer for Russia under these

3412
02:31:31,300 --> 02:31:29,510
circumstances again oh I've done it I

3413
02:31:33,760 --> 02:31:31,310
just did it again tonight I sent a

3414
02:31:36,310 --> 02:31:33,770
message to the CIA and the Pentagon and

3415
02:31:39,969 --> 02:31:36,320
the White House rebelled against you

3416
02:31:42,130 --> 02:31:39,979
this is it guys you were you're kind of

3417
02:31:44,020 --> 02:31:42,140
in a race but you like the hair I mean

3418
02:31:47,170 --> 02:31:44,030
you're like - but it was it yeah you're

3419
02:31:50,320 --> 02:31:47,180
like the hair that's not not taking it

3420
02:31:52,900 --> 02:31:50,330
taking his time no big deal it's gonna

3421
02:31:54,280 --> 02:31:52,910
win he can't lose you meanwhile the

3422
02:31:56,730 --> 02:31:54,290
turtle that would be Putin it's just

3423
02:31:58,900 --> 02:31:56,740
literally heading for the finish line

3424
02:32:01,630 --> 02:31:58,910
and suddenly you're gonna wake up one

3425
02:32:05,290 --> 02:32:01,640
morning and discover the turtle won and

3426
02:32:07,120 --> 02:32:05,300
I'm telling you Jim if Putin were to

3427
02:32:09,670 --> 02:32:07,130
disclose the et presence before the

3428
02:32:10,960 --> 02:32:09,680
United States it will be a geopolitical

3429
02:32:12,179 --> 02:32:10,970
catastrophe

3430
02:32:14,189 --> 02:32:12,189
mmm

3431
02:32:15,719 --> 02:32:14,199
flat out all right I'm not talking

3432
02:32:18,059 --> 02:32:15,729
nuclear war here I'm talking

3433
02:32:20,160 --> 02:32:18,069
geopolitical catastrophe right in terms

3434
02:32:22,979 --> 02:32:20,170
of the status of the United States and

3435
02:32:24,479 --> 02:32:22,989
the world versus Russia and all of a

3436
02:32:26,189 --> 02:32:24,489
fallout that's going to happen in the US

3437
02:32:26,760 --> 02:32:26,199
because there's no website there's no

3438
02:32:28,439 --> 02:32:26,770
glory

3439
02:32:32,309 --> 02:32:28,449
there's nothing but condemnation and

3440
02:32:34,199 --> 02:32:32,319
shame yeah there'll be committee

3441
02:32:35,670 --> 02:32:34,209
hearings and they won't be positive

3442
02:32:37,739 --> 02:32:35,680
it'll be looking for everybody they can

3443
02:32:41,609 --> 02:32:37,749
they can drag in front of the cameras

3444
02:32:47,880 --> 02:32:41,619
and and excoriate it will just be awful

3445
02:32:50,399 --> 02:32:47,890
and so I hope to god somebody in

3446
02:32:53,099 --> 02:32:50,409
government high enough to attempt to

3447
02:32:54,660 --> 02:32:53,109
influence decision-making is hearing

3448
02:32:58,380 --> 02:32:54,670
this I mean I've only been talking about

3449
02:33:00,660 --> 02:32:58,390
it for 20 years not 20 17 years right

3450
02:33:06,449 --> 02:33:00,670
well by the way it's not a thousand I'm

3451
02:33:09,479 --> 02:33:06,459
over 1200 interviews Oh 1201 let's but

3452
02:33:11,479 --> 02:33:09,489
this is I think what is important to

3453
02:33:14,010 --> 02:33:11,489
realize here you know we're always

3454
02:33:16,649 --> 02:33:14,020
especially because we live here but

3455
02:33:18,269 --> 02:33:16,659
always focused on what goes on inside of

3456
02:33:22,050 --> 02:33:18,279
the United States and we have our

3457
02:33:23,279 --> 02:33:22,060
blinders on the the fact remains and

3458
02:33:25,559 --> 02:33:23,289
it's very simple

3459
02:33:27,540 --> 02:33:25,569
not only is Putin his own man and he

3460
02:33:29,219 --> 02:33:27,550
makes his own decisions but that is

3461
02:33:32,130 --> 02:33:29,229
something that is completely out of

3462
02:33:36,479 --> 02:33:32,140
Washington's hands Trump or otherwise

3463
02:33:40,080 --> 02:33:36,489
any POTUS that is there it is out of

3464
02:33:41,010 --> 02:33:40,090
their control and that I think you're

3465
02:33:43,679 --> 02:33:41,020
right about that

3466
02:33:45,989 --> 02:33:43,689
I I really really do that's an

3467
02:33:47,460 --> 02:33:45,999
interesting concept and again we have

3468
02:33:50,910 --> 02:33:47,470
blinders on here we don't really

3469
02:33:53,790 --> 02:33:50,920
consider a play like that in a

3470
02:33:56,790 --> 02:33:53,800
geopolitical storm I could not not only

3471
02:34:00,210 --> 02:33:56,800
that how about a petrol dollar storm too

3472
02:34:03,779 --> 02:34:00,220
as well that they've already started to

3473
02:34:06,449 --> 02:34:03,789
move forward with China and to get off

3474
02:34:11,399 --> 02:34:06,459
of the petro dollar and that would be

3475
02:34:14,069 --> 02:34:11,409
something that would full man yeah I I

3476
02:34:16,410 --> 02:34:14,079
need we can't forget China

3477
02:34:18,689 --> 02:34:16,420
no remember China does have an author or

3478
02:34:20,939 --> 02:34:18,699
Therrien leader Xi Jinping was president

3479
02:34:22,290 --> 02:34:20,949
for life now and I assure you there's

3480
02:34:24,929 --> 02:34:22,300
nobody in the Chinese military it's

3481
02:34:26,070 --> 02:34:24,939
gonna say it tell tushy look yeah you

3482
02:34:27,840 --> 02:34:26,080
don't have a need to know

3483
02:34:30,270 --> 02:34:27,850
but the CT thing just leave it to us I

3484
02:34:34,110 --> 02:34:30,280
don't think so hmm and so you got China

3485
02:34:35,700 --> 02:34:34,120
with 1.3 billion people that feels it's

3486
02:34:39,870 --> 02:34:35,710
the oldest civilization on the earth

3487
02:34:43,011 --> 02:34:39,880
right now and frankly I think in many

3488
02:34:46,261 --> 02:34:43,021
cases they feel they are the superior

3489
02:34:49,650 --> 02:34:46,271
civilization right now and they have

3490
02:34:54,360 --> 02:34:49,660
been they have been disabused by the by

3491
02:34:56,970 --> 02:34:54,370
the West in a number of ways and they

3492
02:34:58,680 --> 02:34:56,980
really want to assert themselves as the

3493
02:35:00,511 --> 02:34:58,690
great power they're becoming whether

3494
02:35:03,120 --> 02:35:00,521
it's going to Mars or building islands

3495
02:35:06,900 --> 02:35:03,130
in the South China Sea and so Xi Jinping

3496
02:35:09,390 --> 02:35:06,910
could say hmm why shouldn't I be the

3497
02:35:12,240 --> 02:35:09,400
Disclosure president why shouldn't I

3498
02:35:14,880 --> 02:35:12,250
make the announcement

3499
02:35:17,280 --> 02:35:14,890
one reason may be that he may feel it

3500
02:35:20,390 --> 02:35:17,290
could loosen his authoritarian control I

3501
02:35:24,590 --> 02:35:20,400
don't know but he would gain so much and

3502
02:35:27,920 --> 02:35:24,600
so these two leaders hmm by the way who

3503
02:35:29,970 --> 02:35:27,930
who are involved now in this chaos

3504
02:35:31,980 --> 02:35:29,980
obviously Russia and Putin are

3505
02:35:33,960 --> 02:35:31,990
completely consumed in this hurricane

3506
02:35:35,490 --> 02:35:33,970
they got yeah and brushes are being

3507
02:35:36,570 --> 02:35:35,500
indicted left and right he's being

3508
02:35:39,480 --> 02:35:36,580
accused of everything the world

3509
02:35:41,310 --> 02:35:39,490
meanwhile and the GG thing in China he's

3510
02:35:44,280 --> 02:35:41,320
not he's not involved in a political

3511
02:35:45,511 --> 02:35:44,290
chaos but he is there that we're getting

3512
02:35:48,150 --> 02:35:45,521
into a trade war with the United States

3513
02:35:50,670 --> 02:35:48,160
right hundreds of billions of dollars in

3514
02:35:51,990 --> 02:35:50,680
tariffs and we're we're sailing

3515
02:35:54,630 --> 02:35:52,000
destroyers and flying over these

3516
02:35:57,570 --> 02:35:54,640
artificial islands right and so we're

3517
02:36:00,270 --> 02:35:57,580
imitating him whether it's justified or

3518
02:36:01,920 --> 02:36:00,280
not doesn't matter and so this idea that

3519
02:36:05,310 --> 02:36:01,930
that they don't either

3520
02:36:07,470 --> 02:36:05,320
both of these authoritarian high control

3521
02:36:11,700 --> 02:36:07,480
leaders with relatively high approval

3522
02:36:13,170 --> 02:36:11,710
ratings one has a huge land mass that

3523
02:36:15,860 --> 02:36:13,180
Shia would love to have a piece of and

3524
02:36:19,200 --> 02:36:15,870
the other has a huge population

3525
02:36:21,540 --> 02:36:19,210
China's got four times as many people as

3526
02:36:23,970 --> 02:36:21,550
we have Russia's got three times as much

3527
02:36:25,530 --> 02:36:23,980
land this idea that these two leaders

3528
02:36:28,470 --> 02:36:25,540
are going to go all we just the US

3529
02:36:29,970 --> 02:36:28,480
deserves this we're wait they've been

3530
02:36:31,920 --> 02:36:29,980
taking a lot of time but it's theirs

3531
02:36:33,900 --> 02:36:31,930
it's their brass ring we're not going to

3532
02:36:37,200 --> 02:36:33,910
take it from them this is ridiculous

3533
02:36:38,520 --> 02:36:37,210
and so once again I realize America's in

3534
02:36:39,930 --> 02:36:38,530
a place where I can't get anything done

3535
02:36:41,671 --> 02:36:39,940
it's completely locked up if

3536
02:36:43,831 --> 02:36:41,681
like the engine completely froze the oil

3537
02:36:46,501 --> 02:36:43,841
ran out of the the Craig did crankcase

3538
02:36:49,230 --> 02:36:46,511
and we're not going anywhere except

3539
02:36:52,171 --> 02:36:49,240
backwards I understand that obviously

3540
02:36:55,020 --> 02:36:52,181
that better changed pretty soon but one

3541
02:36:58,011 --> 02:36:55,030
of the things we're not going well we in

3542
02:37:01,251 --> 02:36:58,021
an official capacity is the et issue

3543
02:37:04,560 --> 02:37:01,261
except now that we have this mi IC

3544
02:37:07,051 --> 02:37:04,570
originated group that is gone public and

3545
02:37:09,751 --> 02:37:07,061
is making a maneuver here that's

3546
02:37:12,900 --> 02:37:09,761
something but the problem that they have

3547
02:37:14,791 --> 02:37:12,910
is that to the extent that they succeed

3548
02:37:16,831 --> 02:37:14,801
to the extent that they get more out and

3549
02:37:19,261 --> 02:37:16,841
they stir the American people even more

3550
02:37:23,011 --> 02:37:19,271
and people get more excited that the

3551
02:37:26,190 --> 02:37:23,021
finish line is coming closer more likely

3552
02:37:27,270 --> 02:37:26,200
Xi Jingping or Putin they say okay looks

3553
02:37:29,700 --> 02:37:27,280
like you're about to cross the finish

3554
02:37:32,041 --> 02:37:29,710
line step right in

3555
02:37:36,001 --> 02:37:32,051
cross the line get the blue ribbon get

3556
02:37:38,100 --> 02:37:36,011
the trophy get the medal that was I was

3557
02:37:40,350 --> 02:37:38,110
hoping for answers tonight now I've got

3558
02:37:43,081 --> 02:37:40,360
questions thanks Steve I really

3559
02:37:45,211 --> 02:37:43,091
appreciate that help my friend

3560
02:37:50,041 --> 02:37:45,221
hey are you see are you speaking

3561
02:37:52,650 --> 02:37:50,051
anywhere no again I did 15 conferences

3562
02:37:54,360 --> 02:37:52,660
21 lectures right and at this point I'm

3563
02:37:56,970 --> 02:37:54,370
not booked and I'm not necessarily

3564
02:37:59,520 --> 02:37:56,980
unhappy about that take a break thank

3565
02:38:01,470 --> 02:37:59,530
you so much Steve behave and be what and

3566
02:38:03,230 --> 02:38:01,480
I can't wait to put you back on the show

3567
02:38:07,440 --> 02:38:03,240
again okay be safe out there

3568
02:38:11,100 --> 02:38:07,450
thank you Steve Bassets unbelievable

3569
02:38:15,301 --> 02:38:11,110
conversation now paradigm research group

3570
02:38:18,570 --> 02:38:15,311
dot org and I invite everybody here to

3571
02:38:20,371 --> 02:38:18,580
go and not only look at those Pravda and

3572
02:38:22,381 --> 02:38:20,381
read through those two articles because

3573
02:38:25,230 --> 02:38:22,391
they are amazing but you've got to go

3574
02:38:27,990 --> 02:38:25,240
and watch the interviews that Steve did

3575
02:38:30,001 --> 02:38:28,000
for Russian television over there and

3576
02:38:33,541 --> 02:38:30,011
I've got to tell you I've watched them

3577
02:38:35,940 --> 02:38:33,551
many many times some of the best stuff

3578
02:38:39,121 --> 02:38:35,950
that you're ever gonna see and it was

3579
02:38:41,400 --> 02:38:39,131
done in Moscow so go and check out all

3580
02:38:45,860 --> 02:38:41,410
of that and like he said he's got a

3581
02:38:49,171 --> 02:38:45,870
little teaser put up about this film I I

3582
02:38:50,970 --> 02:38:49,181
want to see that film happen the other

3583
02:38:51,800 --> 02:38:50,980
I've got to get out of here I've got a

3584
02:38:54,319 --> 02:38:51,810
roll credits

3585
02:38:58,819 --> 02:38:54,329
just want to say this really quick that

3586
02:39:00,410 --> 02:38:58,829
the questions raised here I think is

3587
02:39:02,689 --> 02:39:00,420
something that we all really need to

3588
02:39:05,450 --> 02:39:02,699
think about we all understand what the

3589
02:39:07,280 --> 02:39:05,460
media is doing right now with the

3590
02:39:10,130 --> 02:39:07,290
political situations not only the

3591
02:39:12,109 --> 02:39:10,140
divisive nough status been generated but

3592
02:39:14,000 --> 02:39:12,119
there is some angst going on out there

3593
02:39:17,149 --> 02:39:14,010
and it's not just here in the United

3594
02:39:20,030 --> 02:39:17,159
States this is a global situation that's

3595
02:39:23,689 --> 02:39:20,040
going on would Putin a would would

3596
02:39:25,849 --> 02:39:23,699
Russia and China react first when it

3597
02:39:28,309 --> 02:39:25,859
comes to the disclosure question in

3598
02:39:31,130 --> 02:39:28,319
front of the United States and there was

3599
02:39:33,920 --> 02:39:31,140
reasons for it I think it's an amazing

3600
02:39:36,620 --> 02:39:33,930
set of circumstances that Steve has

3601
02:39:38,510 --> 02:39:36,630
presented all of us and tomorrow night

3602
02:39:40,670 --> 02:39:38,520
is Fator night it's open lines all night

3603
02:39:43,519 --> 02:39:40,680
long and I can only imagine right now

3604
02:39:46,099 --> 02:39:43,529
what is gonna go on tomorrow night

3605
02:39:48,559 --> 02:39:46,109
unfaded black with all of you with that

3606
02:39:52,069 --> 02:39:48,569
I've got to get out of here tomorrow

3607
02:39:53,599 --> 02:39:52,079
night Barrett Brown is going to be here

3608
02:39:55,399 --> 02:39:53,609
so you're not gonna want to miss that

3609
02:39:57,800 --> 02:39:55,409
show he's gonna be here in the front

3610
02:39:59,750 --> 02:39:57,810
half and then we're gonna take phone

3611
02:40:04,099 --> 02:39:59,760
calls and move on to Fator night after

3612
02:40:05,660 --> 02:40:04,109
that with that what an amazing

3613
02:40:07,389 --> 02:40:05,670
conversation yeah that's right I blew

3614
02:40:09,800 --> 02:40:07,399
through all the commercials tonight

3615
02:40:12,380 --> 02:40:09,810
sometimes I just don't want to stop the

3616
02:40:15,290 --> 02:40:12,390
conversation I want to remind everybody

3617
02:40:18,740 --> 02:40:15,300
right now that Seoul Tech is going on

3618
02:40:22,340 --> 02:40:18,750
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02:40:24,920 --> 02:40:22,350
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3620
02:40:26,630 --> 02:40:24,930
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02:40:32,179 --> 02:40:30,149
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02:40:35,300 --> 02:40:32,189
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3624
02:40:38,179 --> 02:40:35,310
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3625
02:40:40,519 --> 02:40:38,189
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3626
02:40:43,189 --> 02:40:40,529
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02:40:55,479 --> 02:40:52,350
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3641
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